Your accusation of the Belzer Rav is appalling in its ignorance.
The British controlled immigration to Palestine, and the WZO got their hands on those papers. Yes, one was given to the Belzer Rav. But how does he owe them any thanks for that? They snatched control over the immigration papers, and then released some of them. Does a thief deserve thanks for returning a tiny percentage of the money he stole?
Reading about the activities of the Zionists during the Holocaust, even from Zionist sources, such as Z. Warhaftig, tells you a lot about their mindset and their activities to 'save' people. The amount of attempts they disturbed, as well as the little they did when they could have done so much more, should tell us a little about the gratitude anybody owes them.
And its not true that he told people to stay. That is a distortion of his words. His brother said in his name that he thinks Hungary will be saved and he was leaving because he wished to travel to EY. He didn't tell anyone to stay behind.
Rav Cherlow in his post quoted the Chazon Ish (Emunah u-Bitachon) that G-d does what is best that does not mean he does what we want. Jewish history before Zionism demonstrates that G-d does not always protect the Jews
As the descendant of those who suffered horribly at the hands of Ukrainians, I cannot bring myself to journey there to spend my money. That's just me. That Russia invaded Ukraine against all international legal norms cannot induce me to exert any effort in Ukraine's defense. Sorry, not sorry.
Lol, this post is hilarious. How many horrible things have you accused Bibi of, how many countless times have you insulted him and called him names? Yet you're compelled to defend him here, bc the other side is Charedi - a type of Jew you hate even more than Bibi. What was it your ex-countryman said? "Misery acqaunts a man with strange bedfellows."
A SEFARIA search yielded a long list of infidel rabbis who claim and also rule that where there is danger, one does not trust the miracle even in performing a mitzvah. The question: Do all these books belong in the trash immediately, or because they also contain holy memorials, do I have to cut all the memorials before I throw them in the trash? This is the list: פענח רזא, מאירי, הריב"ש, עקידת יצחק, מזרחי, הזוהר, מדרש רבה, המהר"ל מפראג, השל"ה, הרוקח, קרבן העדה ופני משה על ירושלמי, אור החיים, היעב"ץ, החתם סופר, בועז על המשנה, רש"ר הירש, ערוך השולחן, בן איש חי,
"...he was merely pointing out that God does not always protect Jews, for whatever reason, and that Europe is a good example of that."
"For whatever reason" The problem exactly! He said G-d didn't always protect but like a good rasha Netanyahu refused to finish the sentence and suggest WHY it may have happened based on open verses in Torah, (which he likes to do) and historical facts. Instead he made it seem like there is no good reason. Netanyahu is a lowlife for wording it that way.
Throughout Torah and Nach it is constantly repeated that Hashem will punish if He is thrown away.
Leading up to the holocaust, the European Jews rebelled mightily against G-d's Torah. Hashem didn't protect because like He warned, He wouldn't protect if His nation rebels. Don't hide the truth with a childish "for whatever reason".
He is right about not placing onesself in danger and relying on Hashem. But the implication of his words were something else, namely that G-d doesn't protect for good reason, which is a flat out lie.
Naturally, while secular Netanyahu can point to the Torah about guarding one's health and such, he can not discuss the much more common theme of punishment. After all, he is a shabbos profaner himself. Netanyahu knows he ignores the Torah. So he yells about the few things he likes and ignores the rest.
What a liar. What a rasha. Whoever called him out is a hero.
Again, Slifkin makes a red herring. I agree that Netanyahu should NOT have been criticized for choosing the wrong words to express Chazal (pesachim 64b), not to rely on miracles, But Eichler and others understood (or misunderstood) him to express words that indicate G-d doesn't protect the Jewish people. As for Zionists during WWII. Many of the leftwing atheists Zionists, the Ben Gurion type, helped the Nazis to exterminate the type of Jews that they saw as "undesirable". They also hated and wanted to keep Edos Hamizrach out, until they realized the Arabs had no intentions of peace and they needed every Jew they could get (both to put on the war front, and to become janitors and blue-collar workers). Most Zionists of the Begin type believed in saving all Jews, but there were some from the socialist type that also were traditional and were appalled at the atheist type Zionists attitude toward fellow Jews.
Regarding דן לכף זכות, the Gemara says a Rasha is always asumed tobe doing wicked. If you hold that Benjamin Netanyahu is a rasha, then you must interpret his statement as equivelent to לית דין ולית דיין.
There's a strange new theology publicized in Shabbos pamphlets that you can bend Hashem to your will by merely acknowledging that everything is in his hands. True, the Rambam talks about it and Rav Chaim Soloveichik acted on it, but they're talking about finding lost keys or getting a car to start up.
Considering all of God's broken promises and all the other inconsistencies God throws at us, it is grotesque to believe that God actually DOES have answers, but refuses to clue us in. Then, orthodox thinkers take it to the next (illogical) step, that is SUPPOSED to be this way. U see, if we knew the greater good that God has in store for the faithful, then we would, chas v'shalom, lose our free will! Vey iz mir! So, 6M Jews were korbones to the disproved doctrine of Hitler's b'chira chafshis!
It's very simple. In order to maintain principles, we need to hold on to taboos. The idea that humans are ultimately rational in their analysis is folly. We need red lines wherever we go.
We don't say anything close to mocking God unless in a very philosophical/studious context.
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Your accusation of the Belzer Rav is appalling in its ignorance.
The British controlled immigration to Palestine, and the WZO got their hands on those papers. Yes, one was given to the Belzer Rav. But how does he owe them any thanks for that? They snatched control over the immigration papers, and then released some of them. Does a thief deserve thanks for returning a tiny percentage of the money he stole?
Reading about the activities of the Zionists during the Holocaust, even from Zionist sources, such as Z. Warhaftig, tells you a lot about their mindset and their activities to 'save' people. The amount of attempts they disturbed, as well as the little they did when they could have done so much more, should tell us a little about the gratitude anybody owes them.
And its not true that he told people to stay. That is a distortion of his words. His brother said in his name that he thinks Hungary will be saved and he was leaving because he wished to travel to EY. He didn't tell anyone to stay behind.
I don't believe in the Uman pilgrimage, but those that went did not endanger their lives.
It was a חשש רחוק that anything would happen, and we are not obligated to worry about a חשש רחוק. Anyone who learned הלכות פקוח נפש can tell you this.
And that is what ended up happening. They were safe and sound, except the one person who sadly collapsed during davening.
Russia would have to be crazy to bomb a gathering of foreign citizens in Ukraine, for no military benefit.
Rav Cherlow in his post quoted the Chazon Ish (Emunah u-Bitachon) that G-d does what is best that does not mean he does what we want. Jewish history before Zionism demonstrates that G-d does not always protect the Jews
As the descendant of those who suffered horribly at the hands of Ukrainians, I cannot bring myself to journey there to spend my money. That's just me. That Russia invaded Ukraine against all international legal norms cannot induce me to exert any effort in Ukraine's defense. Sorry, not sorry.
Lol, this post is hilarious. How many horrible things have you accused Bibi of, how many countless times have you insulted him and called him names? Yet you're compelled to defend him here, bc the other side is Charedi - a type of Jew you hate even more than Bibi. What was it your ex-countryman said? "Misery acqaunts a man with strange bedfellows."
A SEFARIA search yielded a long list of infidel rabbis who claim and also rule that where there is danger, one does not trust the miracle even in performing a mitzvah. The question: Do all these books belong in the trash immediately, or because they also contain holy memorials, do I have to cut all the memorials before I throw them in the trash? This is the list: פענח רזא, מאירי, הריב"ש, עקידת יצחק, מזרחי, הזוהר, מדרש רבה, המהר"ל מפראג, השל"ה, הרוקח, קרבן העדה ופני משה על ירושלמי, אור החיים, היעב"ץ, החתם סופר, בועז על המשנה, רש"ר הירש, ערוך השולחן, בן איש חי,
"...he was merely pointing out that God does not always protect Jews, for whatever reason, and that Europe is a good example of that."
"For whatever reason" The problem exactly! He said G-d didn't always protect but like a good rasha Netanyahu refused to finish the sentence and suggest WHY it may have happened based on open verses in Torah, (which he likes to do) and historical facts. Instead he made it seem like there is no good reason. Netanyahu is a lowlife for wording it that way.
Throughout Torah and Nach it is constantly repeated that Hashem will punish if He is thrown away.
Leading up to the holocaust, the European Jews rebelled mightily against G-d's Torah. Hashem didn't protect because like He warned, He wouldn't protect if His nation rebels. Don't hide the truth with a childish "for whatever reason".
He is right about not placing onesself in danger and relying on Hashem. But the implication of his words were something else, namely that G-d doesn't protect for good reason, which is a flat out lie.
Naturally, while secular Netanyahu can point to the Torah about guarding one's health and such, he can not discuss the much more common theme of punishment. After all, he is a shabbos profaner himself. Netanyahu knows he ignores the Torah. So he yells about the few things he likes and ignores the rest.
What a liar. What a rasha. Whoever called him out is a hero.
Again, Slifkin makes a red herring. I agree that Netanyahu should NOT have been criticized for choosing the wrong words to express Chazal (pesachim 64b), not to rely on miracles, But Eichler and others understood (or misunderstood) him to express words that indicate G-d doesn't protect the Jewish people. As for Zionists during WWII. Many of the leftwing atheists Zionists, the Ben Gurion type, helped the Nazis to exterminate the type of Jews that they saw as "undesirable". They also hated and wanted to keep Edos Hamizrach out, until they realized the Arabs had no intentions of peace and they needed every Jew they could get (both to put on the war front, and to become janitors and blue-collar workers). Most Zionists of the Begin type believed in saving all Jews, but there were some from the socialist type that also were traditional and were appalled at the atheist type Zionists attitude toward fellow Jews.
Regarding דן לכף זכות, the Gemara says a Rasha is always asumed tobe doing wicked. If you hold that Benjamin Netanyahu is a rasha, then you must interpret his statement as equivelent to לית דין ולית דיין.
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All the Haredim are heretics. So wha else is new?
There's a strange new theology publicized in Shabbos pamphlets that you can bend Hashem to your will by merely acknowledging that everything is in his hands. True, the Rambam talks about it and Rav Chaim Soloveichik acted on it, but they're talking about finding lost keys or getting a car to start up.
Powerful message. Thank you.
Slifkin hit a new low on עשרת ימי תשובה
Considering all of God's broken promises and all the other inconsistencies God throws at us, it is grotesque to believe that God actually DOES have answers, but refuses to clue us in. Then, orthodox thinkers take it to the next (illogical) step, that is SUPPOSED to be this way. U see, if we knew the greater good that God has in store for the faithful, then we would, chas v'shalom, lose our free will! Vey iz mir! So, 6M Jews were korbones to the disproved doctrine of Hitler's b'chira chafshis!
It's very simple. In order to maintain principles, we need to hold on to taboos. The idea that humans are ultimately rational in their analysis is folly. We need red lines wherever we go.
We don't say anything close to mocking God unless in a very philosophical/studious context.
The charedi enemies of Bibi would denounce him if he said משה אמת ותורתו אמת. They like to be contrary for the sake of it.