In daf yomi this week we have been talking about money. According to some opinions -- and they seem to be codified as accepted halachah -- money plays d'oraita roles in transactions (Rabbi Yochanon vs. Reish Lakish). But money hadn't been invented yet by the time of Matan Torah.
Rabbi Rimon points out that the shiur of כדי אכילת פרס is the time to eat 8-9 olives. So it makes no sense to have a large shiur for the olive and a short shiur for the time to eat it
The logic of a olive for matzah becomes apparent when you realize matzah was soft and a piece could be easily rolled up into a small round ball the size of an olive and then just pop it in your mouth.
The chart on kezayis was not helpful at all. You did not explain how you figured out an average olive of today, nor did you convert the volume into matzah weight of measurements, the way all the other charts do. I get you just posted for the statement, but do it right once you are at it. (I for myself don't mind eating more but I am makpid on even the smallest shiur so not to have a safek on bracha achrona, so I would benefit from such a chart.)
Since we have grown olive trees from ancient olives, and have thousand year old olive trees, I've never really understood why the size of an olive is controversial.
My (yeshivish) rav said there is never a reason to eat two kezaisim at once, especially if you hold of a large kezayis, since the large kezayis would by definition include the kezayis for hamotzi, which doesn't need to large according to anyone.
Posting (without his permission) for our friend, Eli Yitzchak Fine:
Hey dear fellows, here is another great article about rationalism and pesach! https://irrationalistmodoxism.substack.com/p/a-rationalist-approach-to-pesach
Great reading material to keep you entertained and educated about our view of the dangers of rationalism!
Here is one for a rationalist:
In daf yomi this week we have been talking about money. According to some opinions -- and they seem to be codified as accepted halachah -- money plays d'oraita roles in transactions (Rabbi Yochanon vs. Reish Lakish). But money hadn't been invented yet by the time of Matan Torah.
I was taught by my rebbeim to use a standard kezayis size, not the huge shiurim of Rabbi Bodner.
Good old days before Slifkin cracked up. Poor chap!
"Maniacal Dishonesty About Olives - exposing an error-ridden critique that appeared in the charedi polemical journal Dialogue."
https://slifkinchallenge.blogspot.com/2013/11/i-didnt-expect-kind-of-spanish.html
https://slifkinchallenge.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-kezayis-crusader-is-at-it-again-but.html
https://slifkinchallenge.blogspot.com/2016/05/good-but-not-perfect.html
Rabbi Rimon points out that the shiur of כדי אכילת פרס is the time to eat 8-9 olives. So it makes no sense to have a large shiur for the olive and a short shiur for the time to eat it
The logic of a olive for matzah becomes apparent when you realize matzah was soft and a piece could be easily rolled up into a small round ball the size of an olive and then just pop it in your mouth.
The chart on kezayis was not helpful at all. You did not explain how you figured out an average olive of today, nor did you convert the volume into matzah weight of measurements, the way all the other charts do. I get you just posted for the statement, but do it right once you are at it. (I for myself don't mind eating more but I am makpid on even the smallest shiur so not to have a safek on bracha achrona, so I would benefit from such a chart.)
Love the way Natan completely misquoted the Raavya in his MONOGRAPH. Literally put words in his mouth.
Can't really say I'm surprised though.
Have to admit, it's a pretty funny graphic. Let this be Natan Slifkin's greatest contribution.
Since we have grown olive trees from ancient olives, and have thousand year old olive trees, I've never really understood why the size of an olive is controversial.
And for an irrationalist (well , part aspiring rationalist) Passover: https://ishayirashashem.substack.com/p/a-new-baby-and-a-boris-the-terrible
My (yeshivish) rav said there is never a reason to eat two kezaisim at once, especially if you hold of a large kezayis, since the large kezayis would by definition include the kezayis for hamotzi, which doesn't need to large according to anyone.