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Talya Tapper Rosalki's avatar

The camel grazing issues remind me of issues in the US surrounding cattle grazing on public land near water. Obviously in the US there are areas of public land where cattle grazing is allowed, with permits and rules, but generally the rule is that they have to be kept away from creek beds to prevent damaging the ecosystem there. Is that any different in Braverman's conception?

Similarly, connected to very little else, moose and elk are similarly tall and leggy to camels, and very dangerous to hit with a car. The rule always went that between a deer and a car, the car wins, but between a moose and a car, the moose wins

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This is a woman clearly deeply sunk into her circle, writing in their jargon with no idea (or, more likely, no care) that to outsiders it's like a foreign language, full of assumptions that she doesn't think need to be proved. Here are a couple of examples just from this response:

"far removed from the violent schemes of the settler colonial project"

Just look at how many "proven" assumptions are packed into that one sentence: That "settler colonial projects" exist, that Israel- in the Negev!- is one of them, that they have "schemes" which are "violent," etc. etc.

"the local Bedouin communities and their more-than-human traditions"

What does that even *mean*? I mean, to be honest, it sounds a bit...*racist*, no? That Bedouin are somehow better than Jews or something?

"The Jewish past most certainly includes domesticated camels - they are mentioned in the Bible!"

I'll do you one better: The Bible is full of references to Arabs and Bedouin. (Obviously more like "Semites who travelled around the desert," but Arabs sometimes even by that name.) Every Jewish schoolchild knows that Rashi says that when Avraham saw the three angels, he assumed they were Arabs wandering in the desert.

That leads us to another point that this great scholar seems not to realize: Any conflict between Bedouin and Israelis is far, far more easily explained as an aspect of a conflict that has been going on all around Planet Earth for about as long as there have been human beings: settled people vs. nomads. Even Tanach talks about this. There is an idea that the story of Kayin and Hevel itself is a metaphor for this conflict, Kayin being the settled farmer and Hevel being the nomadic shepherd. The references in the Yosef story to the Egyptians not liking shepherds is probably a reference to this. And of course this goes on to this day vis a vis Gypsies and related groups. Some even say the old "town vs. gown" conflict is an aspect of this.

Point being, these things will happen whenever civilization meets those who don't want to fit into civilization, and boy do the Bedouin not want to be part of civilization. It is nice when accommodations can be reached to let the "wild men" be themselves- we all have a little justified romance of such things, and maybe even some species memory of it- but at certain points the line has to be drawn. Just because one is a Bedouin doesn't mean he gets to steal a car, for example. (I choose that example deliberately.) And, yeah, a little control of your camels would be good. Most of us don't even get to *own* a camel.

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