They have the same right to negotiate their participation in the government as any other party. Of course, Bibi can turn them down. There can be give and take. This is part of a multi-party system.
The haredim represent a significant sector. They have the right to give input.
Generating electricity is constantly happening. Once you turn on a hydroelectric dam or power plant, it keeps churning out electricity until you shut it down. And shutting it down is a big deal. It’s not like flicking a light switch on and off.
It seems to me (not a rabbi of any denomination) that since it was already flowing before Shabbat, it could and should be allowed to continue to flow during Shabbat.
If individuals choose not to use that electricity, that’s their choice. I wonder if these same individuals turn off their refrigerators before Shabbat? It’s drawing power and keeping the food from spoiling. Can you imagine every refrigerator in the country going down 18 minutes before Shabbat? It’s absurd.
From a halachic perspective, I think the poskim got electricity all wrong. They imagined it as a sort of fire going through the wires, ready to break out and start a “new flame” any time.
That might have been true in the early days of incandescent bulbs, which did in fact spontaneously burst into flame.
Electricity is more like water; it keeps flowing until it meets a switch that stops the flow. That’s more like your toilet, which fills with water until the “switch” (aka the float) turns it off.
Modern LED lighting does not generate heat, and cannot spontaneously burst into flame.
It’s time for a revision in our “understanding” of electricity, based on a 19th century misunderstanding, which resulted in Halacha that no longer makes sense in the 21st century.
The biggest decision facing PM Netanyahu will be facing comes January 1, is anointing a successor. (He's 74, don't expect an 83 year old President Biden situation. Won't work in Israel.)
And they want input, or rather control over him (her).
What is interesting to me is the request for the government to restrict the phone number transfer ability. Apparently they don't trust themselves to stay with their kosher phones. The amount of Torah available on the modern phone is breath taking: countless hours of shiurim, sefarim, responsa. There is shtuyot too but so is a walk down a modern street. I never leave home (except Shabbat) without my electronic Torah in my pocket. (halachteha ba derech...)
These are all issues that should not be decided by government in the fist place. Why does government decide how many kosher beaches there are or whether you should be allowed to change your phone service and keep the same number? Once you legitimize the concept of a paternalistic government you must accept the ridiculous outcomes that ensue.
Protect the freedom of the individual and allow the market to decide how much transportation costs or whether there is a demand for institutions to answer halachic questions.
This is socialism, if you like it, then accept it even when the people you don't like end up in charge.
What an ubelieveablly STUPID and LAZY post! If you "have no idea" then how can you say they are not qualified! Because Charedim are BAD BAD BAD so anything they suggest is BAD BAD BAD. At the very least do a minimal amount of research before mouthing off. My Goodness!
I don't know if the chareidi politicians are qualified to make halachic decisions about power plants on Shabbos (although I suspect they have qualified poskim who they listen to), but one thing I do know:
The secularists, mechallelei Shabbos, and kofrim, who represent the majority of the country, are most definitely not qualified to make any decisions that have anything to do with Judaism or the Jewish community at all. In fact, they have no right to be in the country in the first place, and it is only in the merit of the Shomrei Torah that they are able to exist there. Compared to them, the chareidi politicians are EMINENTLY qualified.
"When asked about how the mass-kollel system is supposed to work on large and growing scale, they have no answer - they haven’t even thought about it."
But their answer is in your post! ("They got him to agree to doubling the payments given to people who choose not to work and instead register in kollel/yeshivah, and who raise their children to do the same.")
They have the same right to negotiate their participation in the government as any other party. Of course, Bibi can turn them down. There can be give and take. This is part of a multi-party system.
The haredim represent a significant sector. They have the right to give input.
If I remember correctly, as each power station is connected to at least one hospital, all electricity production can be defined as pikuach nefesh.
Generating electricity is constantly happening. Once you turn on a hydroelectric dam or power plant, it keeps churning out electricity until you shut it down. And shutting it down is a big deal. It’s not like flicking a light switch on and off.
It seems to me (not a rabbi of any denomination) that since it was already flowing before Shabbat, it could and should be allowed to continue to flow during Shabbat.
If individuals choose not to use that electricity, that’s their choice. I wonder if these same individuals turn off their refrigerators before Shabbat? It’s drawing power and keeping the food from spoiling. Can you imagine every refrigerator in the country going down 18 minutes before Shabbat? It’s absurd.
From a halachic perspective, I think the poskim got electricity all wrong. They imagined it as a sort of fire going through the wires, ready to break out and start a “new flame” any time.
That might have been true in the early days of incandescent bulbs, which did in fact spontaneously burst into flame.
Electricity is more like water; it keeps flowing until it meets a switch that stops the flow. That’s more like your toilet, which fills with water until the “switch” (aka the float) turns it off.
Modern LED lighting does not generate heat, and cannot spontaneously burst into flame.
It’s time for a revision in our “understanding” of electricity, based on a 19th century misunderstanding, which resulted in Halacha that no longer makes sense in the 21st century.
This is obviously not about electric production.
The biggest decision facing PM Netanyahu will be facing comes January 1, is anointing a successor. (He's 74, don't expect an 83 year old President Biden situation. Won't work in Israel.)
And they want input, or rather control over him (her).
What is interesting to me is the request for the government to restrict the phone number transfer ability. Apparently they don't trust themselves to stay with their kosher phones. The amount of Torah available on the modern phone is breath taking: countless hours of shiurim, sefarim, responsa. There is shtuyot too but so is a walk down a modern street. I never leave home (except Shabbat) without my electronic Torah in my pocket. (halachteha ba derech...)
These are all issues that should not be decided by government in the fist place. Why does government decide how many kosher beaches there are or whether you should be allowed to change your phone service and keep the same number? Once you legitimize the concept of a paternalistic government you must accept the ridiculous outcomes that ensue.
Protect the freedom of the individual and allow the market to decide how much transportation costs or whether there is a demand for institutions to answer halachic questions.
This is socialism, if you like it, then accept it even when the people you don't like end up in charge.
And eventually, they always will.
How about FREE ISRAEL from socialism.
What an ubelieveablly STUPID and LAZY post! If you "have no idea" then how can you say they are not qualified! Because Charedim are BAD BAD BAD so anything they suggest is BAD BAD BAD. At the very least do a minimal amount of research before mouthing off. My Goodness!
I don't know if the chareidi politicians are qualified to make halachic decisions about power plants on Shabbos (although I suspect they have qualified poskim who they listen to), but one thing I do know:
The secularists, mechallelei Shabbos, and kofrim, who represent the majority of the country, are most definitely not qualified to make any decisions that have anything to do with Judaism or the Jewish community at all. In fact, they have no right to be in the country in the first place, and it is only in the merit of the Shomrei Torah that they are able to exist there. Compared to them, the chareidi politicians are EMINENTLY qualified.
"When asked about how the mass-kollel system is supposed to work on large and growing scale, they have no answer - they haven’t even thought about it."
But their answer is in your post! ("They got him to agree to doubling the payments given to people who choose not to work and instead register in kollel/yeshivah, and who raise their children to do the same.")
Are you literally coming out against more segregated beaches? That's a new low.
Rav Yisrael Rosen wrote this in תחומין .
https://www.zomet.org.il/?CategoryID=394&ArticleID=1010
Here at least is an informed voice.