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Reb Natan, I'm curious, after hearing our side from many different commentators, even if you disagree, do you understand where we're coming from at least?

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Natan Natan Natan. I don't know if I am part of what triggered this post from my previous comments (it's probably narcissistic for me to think that). and you probably have a point when people say hishtadlus doesn't matter. But that isn't the position we take.

(Even your example was a reaction to all of those who pump up hishtadlus too much. I doubt Reb Shalom Cohen really thinks we don't need the army practically. I'm not twisting; his point is that it isn't the army that isn't the one doing it. It is our teshuva (learning is part of that), Tefilah, Tzedaka, it is our closeness with Hashem which is what governs the world. NOT the army. But this isn't to say that we don't need the army. If I'm wrong about reb Shalom Cohen than he's out, he doesn't represent us, and either way we have tremendous הכרת הטוב to the army. but i could hear myself saying such words to bring out a point in proper context. although in his position he should've been more clear, and he's dead wrong for pretending like they don't deserve tremendous tremendous הכרת הטוב.

Here's how we view it. There are two planes of existence. We can call them (A) the real world and (b) Olam Hazeh. we live in olam hazeh and that is our reality. unless we rise way above like the Rambam and Reb Baruch ber and Chizkiyahu hamelch and Reb Shimon Bar Yochai (each of those have specific stories to this affect, not 4 now), we are stuck in this olam hazeh and the rules of olam hazeh govern us. in this world which we live in, hishtadlus is a MUST. without it we die and starve. because we haven't risen above. we need צהל and have only tremendous הכרת הטוב to them for putting their lives on the line; a truly scary prospect. and if not for them it would be us.

but then there is the actual real world, the world of שכר ועונש. in this world we say הכל בשביל ישראל. everything that happens is a message to better ourselves. when there is an עת צרה we daven and do teshuva because that is how things really work.

when it got really hot for אברהם אבינו i'm sure the climate analysts were making cheshbonos why it was so hot. when vinegar went up in price for rav huna (brachos 5b) to sell it at the cost of wine not to lose after doing teshuva for what caused it to turn sour in the first place, i'm sure all the data econ dudes were explaining it all acc. to teva. but we say בשביל ישראל. you know why it was hot? so avraham der tatte shouldn't have guests. you know why the market completely changed and vinegar shot up? the real reason is because of rav huna. you know why efron became the leader? i'm sure there were natural causes and politics and all the pundits were saying how this idiot should reallly not be president an it happened because of the backlash to this ideology or whatever. but the Gemara tells us the real reason why: בשביל ישראל שנקראו ראשית, so avraham should deal with someone chashuv. this is our view of all of history. why hitler came to power, why trump was elected, why oil prces go up, why trgedies happen, why this guy wins a lottery, why the Jews got expelled from [pick your country], why this natural disaster happened, why this natural course of events happened.

the teva is the tool Hashem uses in this world to enact and carry out His will, acc. to שכר ועונש. so when a Yid sees an עת צרה, the spiritual behind the scenes rectifications are the real ones that will save everyone. but like the purim story, there will be a masterful cover up of natural events, like the IDF and IAF and America backing Israel and on and on, which will help us win בעה"ית, but those are the natural fronts. the real deal is our coming closer to him. learning better davening better.

this is not rational, but this is basic Judaism from all corners.

all that said, we need the hishtalus, and we thank the courageous soldiers to no end for their valiant efforts. and we pray to God that our teshuva is sincere because their lives are the ones we are protecting with our learning. and as i said, we must realize that their lives and the direction of this war is in the hands of klal yisroel and its teshuva, and the more we internalize that, the more serious our avoda becomes and the more effort we better put in. because it is up to the bnei torah to change the course of the events. and if soldier R'l don't do so well, it's a sign that we're not doing so well.

hishtadlus is not a charade. it's the world we live in. but neither is the 'real' world of בראשית ברא אלהים, בשביל ישראל שנקראו ראשית

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