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Avi Rosenthal's avatar

The rift between charedim and the rest of Israel grows even better, not worse. If the non-Haredi electorate gets angry enough, the taboo on Arabs in the government will be replaced with a taboo in Haredim in the government.

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Natan Slifkin's avatar

Let's hope so.

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ChanaRachel's avatar

That cartoon is amazing ;-)

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ChanaRachel's avatar

....and talk about life imitating art, the coalition MK who presented the draft bill to the Knesset (in place of Gallant, who needed to be elsewhere) was non other than Aguda MK Meir Porash.

See him speak about the shortage of soldiers, and how drafting the Mechina students is critical: https://twitter.com/KnessetT/status/1752980313762931112

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מיכאל לייזר בן בנימין's avatar

Withdraw the money an they'll come to heel

Pressure the politicians

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Elie Mayer's avatar

My wife was at a Simcha of a Chareidi family this week and noticed the contrast between their Simcha and a Daati Leumi family Simcha… lots of young men. It was so upsetting that she had to leave.

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Joe Berry's avatar

Not related to Rabbi Slifkin's posting but related to your comment, my wife and I have been to many daati leumi as well as charedi weddings. We have noticed that the charedi weddings are always so solemn, very little simcha. Half the time, the boy (and/or the girl) seem ready to puke. Whereas, at the DL weddings, the simcha was out of this world. Everyone so joyous.

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Elie Mayer's avatar

I’ve found that difference between weddings in Israel and Chul but not by Hashkafa. In Peninei Halacha, he offers a beautiful reason

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*****'s avatar

Where is the more simcha, Isreal or Chul?

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Chana Siegel's avatar

This war is going to make a lot of changes in the Israeli public, especially among veterans and their families.

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Henry Rosenberg's avatar

Kol Torah she ein ima melacha, sofa betela, v’goreret avon.

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Eli B's avatar

Charedim will adduce (dubious) support for their position from the much-visited Gemora of Torah Maigin that they ARE, somehow, contributing as much (if not more) to the war efforts as the soldiers.

The reason they will never change is a deeply entrenched superiority complex, drummed in from Yeshiva days, that places Bnei Torah at the pinnacle of civilisation. They want to stay as far away from DL, Mizrachi or Chiloni as possible, especially if it means making life easier for them, in terms of not sacrificing their sons' lives in the army......

unless it's a matter of money, in which case even the much reviled ModOx will become most beloved friends, if it's people like the Schottenstein family who bankroll the learning.

If they can't appreciate the unfairness of their position from a moral perspective, they will likely appreciate it from a financial one. The only thing that speaks to them is money.

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Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

Quotas for Yeshivot to supply army recruits or no money.

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Daniel Pincus's avatar

You are entirely right. The survival of the state is at stake.

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Maurice Kamins's avatar

Rabbi, once again thank you for your thoughtful and informative post.

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מיכאל לייזר בן בנימין's avatar

יש שלוש סיבות למה חרדים לא משרתים בצה'ל כי בה

פריצות גילוי עריות ועבודה זרה

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Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

Hide from the world and you will be safe and holy. Let someone else do it for you.

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מיכאל לייזר בן בנימין's avatar

זה ההבדל בין נח לאברהם

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Mikhail Olivson's avatar

Avraham literally fought a battle to save his nephew.

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Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

אברהם הוא אב המון גויים

לא רק עם ישראל

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Avi Rosenthal's avatar

אז למה להישאר במדינת ישראל? לכו לאפגניסטן.

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Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

אב המון גויים in that Hashem saw אברהם as declaring and promoting the idea of the one G-d and to promote justice and righteousness.Therefore the Rambam ruled that a גר can say אלוקינו ולואקי אבותינו even though biologically the גר is not a descendent.

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Isaac waxman's avatar

This move highlights a legitimate concern from the Haredi sector. The accommodations to the religious soldiers are subject to reduction or annulment from the state. Emergencies are inevitable and sometimes are contrived to take away rights that were previously negotiated and agreed to.

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Elie Mayer's avatar

In Israel but it wasn’t a wedding

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