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I will answer your question. It's because you and the rest of the country are using logic and being rational. While Orthodox and Chareidi Judism only works via appeal to authority. So you can scream logic all you want. They will scream authority all they want. And no common ground will be found. The only possible way to make willing chareidi change is via their own language of appeal to authority.

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Glad I have comfortable shoes, because those lovely gentlemen are likely to riot and disrupt light rail service in J-lem again today.

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What is the reason that Chareidi women are exempt from the draft? They don't learn so there is no torah protects excuse? Why isn't the government trying to draft them?

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You're missing the real reason why Chareidim will not join the IDF. It has nothing to do with Torah. Go to http://vayakhel.com for the real reason Chareidim will never join the IDF.

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Who will be there to defend them if there is a direct attack on an unarmed unprepared Charedi community? Will it take, God forbid, a disastrous attack on their community before they understand the necessity of army service? Or will they respond by reflecting, increasing their learning, fasting, and deciding such an attack was a result of their sins, or someone else’s sins?

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I understand that the proposed legal change which the charedim wanted, was to reduce the required age for a man to remain in learning from 26 to 21 (after which he could go out and work with no penalty.) The "chilonim" were agreeable to maintain the status quo at 26. So theTorah community wanted to reduce the required number of years of learning and the "irreligious" wanted to maintain the longer required period of learning. So who really is religious ? Does a whiff of hypocrisy fill the air ?

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1. Charedim blew this plan up just two years ago.

2. It's all proposed laws. You cannot expect supreme court to decide on the validity of a potential law. Currently there is no law that covers any form of dichuy or petur for yeshiva students.

Real political blame should be placed on the Charedi leadership that failed their own constituents wishes.

All this is without even getting into the ethical issue at hand.

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