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Azmaveth Fishburg's avatar

While I appreciate these talmidei chachamim speaking to our community in a reasonable way, I think they would be better off focusing on the problems in their own community, which are far worse. The fact is that they have failed to balance both the Torah and Zionism while upholding the integrity of the Torah. Zionism is a far greater value to them, which is why these communities have much worse observance and a much greater OTD rate than chareidim. Let them rectify their own problems before they preach to us.

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shulman's avatar

I didn't listen to the audio yet, but on the first letter, it's so simple that there is milchemes mitzvah today? (It's not.) And even if it does apply (it very much may), does that mean there are no other legitimate reasons within a Torah framework to navigate the system carefully and not act to hasty at risk of jeopardizing charedi values? There are clear halachos on how the chachmei hatorah of every generation have the right to make decisions to uphold the upkeep of Torah. I'm not sure why it's a "distortion of Torah" just because things are more complicated and grey.

That said, most people here know position that there absolutely needs to be a change within the Charedi community and it's truly not right that they are living a different life and not sharing the burden. But the lack of understanding, while understandable from the hamon am (I can even justify anger on their part), from a Rosh Yeshiva who is representing torah, is sad.

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