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Someone's been telling me to stop commenting here, because you're just too rabid to be sensible. You always make excellent points that are 100% justified and then take them one giant step too far into hatred, destructiveness, sinas chinam, divisiveness and generally making a terrible situation worse instead of better. Why do you have to take that last step every time? Why can't you be a voice of reason that can represent the dignity of the Torah instead of the lashing out of the agrieved? To connect it to the animal world, you seem like a king cobra waiting in a bamboo thicket to pounce every time it's prey becomes vulnerable. Is that really the kind of person you are? Almost everything you right sounds like you're a real mensch I could respect and be friends with. But the rest is inexcusable.

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I was with you until the last line - "Relative to charedi lives, non-charedi lives just don’t matter."

Did you see b'chadrei charedim after 10/7? The headline was מעי מעי על חלליהם, a line from mourning the churban of Yerushalayim in Nachem, with an outpouring of sincere grief though almost all those who were killed were secular and soldiers.

The rest of your post was right and you've made the missing point before: They believe (yes, maybe convinced themselves they believe but their society is based on this belief) that if everyone was charedi there would be no danger and no need for an army and those crazy Zionists are the cause of this mess so dealing with it is their problem, not ours.

You can be a decent person deserving of respect and believe that, as inanely foolish as it is to anyone with a basic education (which they don't have). When you claim they see other's lives as less than theirs you claim they are evil and not just stupid and callous and indifferent to the burden on people they think caused their own problem (though that's clearly not a good excuse). And then you cause people to see charedi lives as less valuable, and you're as bad as you claim they are.

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