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"someone who in the past expressed an intent to “get to” Rabin shortly before he was assassinated"

He was 15 years old, for God's sake. Writing this is called a "bad faith argument."

"a person who has been convicted in Israel of multiple crimes"

He has never, in fact, been convicted once. And the "crimes" he has been accused of are not any that should exist in any free country. But then you write, "As someone who has been cancelled in a rather extreme way, I have no problem with it" and we see where you're coming from. You know what? Some of us *do* value unfettered free speech. Dumb Americans with their inherent rights, I know. But look what's happening in the UK right now and tell me it's better.

"Ben Gvir said “Hague Shmague”; two thousand years ago, he would have said “Rome Shmome.”"

Ha ha. Do I really have to point out the logical fallacy here? The Romans had an *army*. The Romans were also willing to let the Jews do their crazy stuff in peace so long as their rule wasn't threatened.

The Hague has no army and is made of Jew-haters who care not how much we butter them up.

So far I see bad faith, a falsehood, an appeal to (unjust) authority, and a historically ill-founded fallacy. Do I have to keep searching?

The left's fantasies have led to thousands of deaths. The right's have not (although granted they haven't really been tried). I'll take that track record.

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Let's cut to the chase. The left wing media portrayed Trump as Hitler and Ben Gvir as a greater threat to humanity than Sinwar. Ben Gvir never killed any Arab or Jew (whereas Sinwar did many of both) so there is no question that the media bias is extremely slanted.

People should be aware of relevant facts in terms of what Ben Gvir has actually done in his current position. If you're an honest person you should read this article and appreciate the enormity of this accomplishment:

https://m.maariv.co.il/journalists/article-1191132?utm_source=whatsapp

For those who can't read this article in Hebrew, I'll summarize briefly: A monumental objective of his was to overhall the jail system. It is well documented that terrorists in Israeli jail received better food, had LCD TV's in every room, were provided the opportunity to complete academic studies. So much so that there have been Palesitinians who snuck into israeli prisons in order to complete studies and enjoy some of the benefits. Each Palestinian terrorist received 6 fresh pitas daily (together with other food), they also had a canteen account where they could order whatever meats they please, financed by the PA to the tune of 200 million sheqel. Rabbi Slifkin - you have a problem with charedim getting money and not sering in the army. I have a bigger problem with terrorists getting far better food than I did as a soldier. The terrorists were allowed to organize and be represented, they were treated as equals by the prison services. Anything to keep them happy with the ridiculous notion that that would buy peace. In short the same left wing leaning policies that led to October 7th. Besides for the moral disgrace that murderers of Jews got to live the good life, it had dire security ramifications. This meant that Sinwar was able to continue to be a leader while in prison and intelligence officers couldn't get information from inmates because they were organized and represented and nobody wanted to rock the boat. Nobody until Ben Gvir came along. He has successfully overhauled that disgraceful system and put an end to the "summer camp" atmosphere in the jails. Besides for many other security benefits, this has the basic effect of changing the incentive to be or not to be a terrorist. Whereas a year ago, a palestinian could slaughter some jews, turn himself over to the police and then complete his Bagrut or bachelors degree, he now could sit in a prison cell and not get treated royally and not accomplish anything. So, as far as I can tell, the bottom line is Ben Gvir has done more to fight terrorism and increase security than any other minister that I am aware of.

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