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David Ilan's avatar

Keep the war tower on the elephant for Sukkot as an example of a kosher portable sukkah

Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

זה מדהים איך החרדים לגמרי נלהבים מהתרגשותו של רב חיים שהמאמץ הרוחני הזה הוא. שמ

Michael Dworkin's avatar

At the risk of being accused of pedantry I should like to point out that the Maccabees DID NOT fight the Greek army. They were fighting the Seleucid empire, an indigenous neighboring power that had been Hellenized. The irony is that the Seleucids had once been under the control of the late Alexander the Great who had been so tolerant and friendly to our ancestors that some Jewish boys continue to be named after him. Our battle was not with Greece proper or with "Greeks;" it was with Grecian culture and the Seleucid's obsessive desire to destroy our Torah-based lifestyle and replace it with their Hellenistic ways.

Furthermore, it was as much a civil war as a war with invading foreigners, as there were any number of Jews who were attracted to Hellenistic modes as more up-to-date and sophisticated than our Torah ways. Does that sound familiar?

Do we celebrate the Hanukkat HaBayit and rekindling of the Menorah to downplay the internecine strife that occurred? To avoid having to deal with the embarassment that there were so many Jews eager to give up Torah observance and "be like everyone else?" The Maccabees were battling those traitors as much as Antiochus's armies. In fact, one might suggest that this battle was the more difficult, and one that still confronts us.

Natan Slifkin's avatar

I think it's legitimate to refer to them as the Greeks (better, Seleucid Greeks). First of all, the actual Greeks were the nucleus of the empire. Second, since the rest of the empire was Hellenized, they were essentially Greek converts.

K.J. Smith's avatar

Very quickly did the Chashmonaim sink into Greek ways and internecine warfare.Once Yochanan Hyrcanus converted the idumeans and the Sadducees were in control,especially Alexander Yannai,arrogance led to destruction.Herod and deterioration followed.

All of history results from human decisions and cause and effect is only mitigated by strong and righteous people.Society follows culture and entropy leads to dissolution.Because culture is downstream of politics then only is it saved by strong leaders.Zealotry or assimilation lead into accelerated entropy.

The Zionists and socialists of pre state modern Israel is tantamount to eventual ongoing friction.The soldiers in the famous photo of the Kosel at the capturing of Yerushalayim in the six day war is a stark reality check in not realizing what they were fighting for.The socialists especially in their merging with the reform movement to forcibly change the law of return in 1970,to the Nuremberg laws,to allow Russian gentiles to overwhelm Israel,even until today is catastrophic.Where Herzog,Sharansky and their predecessors have turned the ulpan Hebrew classes into a 95% non -Jewish foreign invasion.With the extremist Supreme Court in Israel,who the defeated American nominee,Robert Bork,who called this very Israel Supreme Court the most radical in the world,defeated in Ronald Reagan’s nomination for the U.S. version and torpedoed by the chairman of the judiciary committee,one Joseph Robinette Biden jr.,allowed Anthony Kennedy to be nominated.Kennedy,whose law school professor and mentor in was a closeted homosexual,whom Kennedy sympathized,was the deciding 5-4 vote to forge national homosexual marriage in the United States.The cult of aberrant sexual behavior and LBGTQ+ radicalism and children without parental consent being transitioned to a different sexual outcome,with a 70% suicide rate is emblematic of disaster.

The blind leading the blind is a recipe for chaos.The Greek culture has survived until today,as Greek thought has overcome Semitic thought in language,the noun preceding the adjective.Where a subject is spoken of first it consecrated reality.An adjective first can alter the meaning.Such as philosophy,theatre,art and varied culture.All culture is westernized except for Islamic and communist,where the honor/shame mentality predominates.There is little leeway for change unless by force.

Witness the leftist language of distorting good and evil.In democracies in western culture,up to and beyond 20% Islamic in Western Europe,where silence is the norm of appeasement.No go zones predominate.Their leftist allies,such as weak American leftist politicians and replacement demographics lead to total destruction.Greek culture led to Marxism and Communism as alternatives in the modern world.Democracies do not last.Authoritarian or totalitarian is normalized.Why did 15 million people from 160 out of 180 countries on earth,Cloward-Piven style,arive and welcomed,as well as earlier“Frankfort school”Jewish communists,result in today’s communist funding and drug cartel money and human and Chinese transport of fentanyl to Mexico for drug smuggling into the U.S. under Biden succeed.Because it could!

Israel is in constant turmoil as well from its counter Judaism and large non-Jewish and Arab citizens and non democratic Supreme Court and large scale Jewish emigration.It is therefore also a miracle.

Yekutiel Weiss's avatar

שמקיים העולם בלא שום מאמצים רגילים.