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Natan Slifkin's avatar

Right now the chareidi apologists are deciding whether to claim that it's unrepresentative or that it's no big deal.

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David Ohsie's avatar

You can’t believe all the advertising signs put up outside of shops. Unless you get it directly from the owner, you have to assume it is a rumor. Do you think that the owner has time to protest every offensive advertising sign outside their shop?

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Robin Alexander's avatar

Yeah, I would think it would rather important for the shop's PR and a prime concern of the owner.

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David Ohsie's avatar

Sorry, my comment was parody.

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Uriah’s Wife's avatar

@D. Ohsie

Unless it’s over the top, sarcasm doesn’t come across well in response to idiocy on blog posts.

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David Ohsie's avatar

I was responding to a subthread to R Slifkin who likely understood what I was writing. Not all jokes work and certainly not for all people; if one can’t live with one doesn’t write them or consume them.

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Jerry Steinfeld's avatar

No one is apologizing for this stupid sign and the fact that this represents an attitude is awful, but be honest, this is more "hock" than anything else of importance.

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Natan Slifkin's avatar

I forgot to add - Robby commented to someone near the sign about how tasteless it is. The person smiled and replied, "In our community, it isn't."

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EKB🎗️'s avatar

These people really make me angry. How is this Torah Judaism to make fun of war of any kind never mind when it affects your own people? They like to say that it is because of those of us who do not follow their branch of Judaism is why the moshiach has not come. It doesnt even dawn on these selfrighteous a*holes that the Moshiach is not coming because of their attitudes toward their fellow Jews. It is time for the State of Israel to remove all benefits for these leeches

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Robin Alexander's avatar

Great point!

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Shy Guy's avatar

Heels with no souls.

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A. Nuran's avatar

The Charedim have revealed themselves for what they are, the Second of the Four Sons. Let them be slaves in Egypt until they consider themselves part of Israel

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Shlomo Levin's avatar

I usually don't comment on this issue, but that sign really is terrible.

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Neely's avatar

Disgusting. What would be done if this were an Arab-owned shop?

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Rachel A Listener's avatar

Doesn’t Torah say “Do not stand idly by, while your brother bleeds!”

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Mark's avatar

Not their Torah

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Yosef Hirsh's avatar

Awful

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Nachum's avatar

It would help their argument if those lecturing us about how charedim have to learn full-time weren't such obvious hypocrites. (Of course, then they wouldn't be here to lecture us.)

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Rachel A Listener's avatar

Scribal Error today has something to say regarding Torah interpretation vs. and Bavli study. Could this be a basis for their blocked bias?

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Robin Alexander's avatar

Kind of disgusting.

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Hanoch's avatar

I will confess my ignorance. I neither understand the comment on the sign, nor what it has to do with shoes.

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Nachum's avatar

I think it's basically "the North and South are on fire because of the war, but here in Meah Shearim our only war is on the prices" or something.

My Arab dentist, who comes from up north, recently sighed to me that in the north and south they get war, and while in Jerusalem we don't, we get terror attacks.

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Rebekah Lee's avatar

Nothing of course! Just pure, crass, American, materialistic capitalism.

They'll take a buck (shekel) anyway they can.

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Aron T's avatar

It kinda reminds me of the Memorial Day sales in the US. People are totally oblivious to how crude that sounds

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Nachum's avatar

The war Memorial Day marks ended over a hundred and fifty years ago.

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Zundel Eysheshoker's avatar

Just explain to me as though I am stupid, what does this have to do with Charedim? Does it even belong to a Charedi? Why does anyone but the advertising firm and the shoe store have to apologize?

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David Ilan's avatar

Well yes. It does take a special kind of stupid (yours) to deny that a shoe store in meah shearim would have anything to do with other than hareidim

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Nachum's avatar

Well, in fairness, we do sometimes go to Charediland to get shoes. But yeah, it's mostly not our kind.

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David Ilan's avatar

You mean nisht unzerer

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Sara Schwartz's avatar

This is abhorrent.

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Noah's avatar

Tasteless as this is, I could see this happening with goyim in the US, were the US at war, too.

It's horrendous and disgusting, but there are much worse issues (like chareidim refusing to take part in national service or the military) so I can't be bothered too much by something like this

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Nachum's avatar

There's no "goy" (as you tellingly put it) in the US who would ever put up a sign saying, "We're at war on multiple fronts, but the real war here is how much we're cutting prices!"

To avoid service, it really helps to see the war as something far away.

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Ephraim's avatar

Had the ad appeared in HaModia, the text would be the real גזירה is not the war, nor the repeal of subsidized day care, but the high cost of stilettos.

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Jerry Steinfeld's avatar

During Vietnam it was way worse than a stupid shoe sale my friend

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Nachum's avatar

Which you witnessed personally.

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