> "The Prime Minister of Israel shared an article from a far-left virulently anti-Israel genocide-accusing website which tries to link Epstein with the Mossad!!!"
I'm not a Bibi apologist by any means, but just to be a bit more charitable, while Jacobin magazine (the magazine under question) is indeed far-left (and thus unsurprisingly anti-Israel), it's a quality magazine. I certainly don't agree with their politics (I'm a centrist, and pro-Israel), but years ago I enjoyed reading their articles on general topics, as they have high editorial standards. Of course, you have to take their left-wing/socialist bias into account when reading anything they write.
A good analogy might be to a publication on the other end of the spectrum, a right-wing / conservative publication that is serious, high-quality, intellectually oriented, and Christian-influenced, such as "First Things"
Don't think I've read anything they've written about Israel in particular. But they do have at least some high-quality articles; or at least they did last I read some of their stuff many years ago (and I have no reason to believe that their editorial approach has changed since then).
I read things critically (partially due to my academic background). So even if I completely disagree with the ideological bent, if it's quality, I can still get something out of it. That's why there's still value in reading Marx, for example. Even if his ideology/worldview/conclusions are overall wrong (and harmful), he still raises interesting points, that someone in the political Center or Right wouldn't raise.
In the same way that I'll read, say, thoughtful writings by extreme libertarians, because even though I think their normative ideas and conclusions are completely unrealistic, they still raise interesting points, that aren't raised in mainstream discourse
Because I have no interest in doing so, and have no epistemic obligation to do so. The burden of proof is on the OP. And based on what I know, the OP's critique is weak. Since unlike the OP, who doesn't indicate that he's read any Jacobin (only knowing that it's far-left and anti-Israel), I've actually read many articles of theirs. Jacobin is a serious, respected publication. I differ with their ideology, but they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand
So what you are saying is that you cannot be bothered to investigate the claim about their Israel articles but we should still take your opinion seriously. Glad you cleared this up
No, that's not what I'm saying. The OP implies that Jacobin is an illegitimate source, simply because it's left-wing and anti-Israel. I grant the claim that Jacobin is left-wing and anti-Israel. My point is simply that that's not a reason for it not to used as a reference for discussing something factual. Jacobin is a serious publication, that can be relied on regarding factual claims
I agree with you about Bibi. His late brother Jonathan is my hero. His letters should be required reading for every Zionist Jew. I often wonder what he would say to Bibi if her were alive…
You are judgmental without realizing the other alternatives.All left wing politicians in western democracies are always condemning their opponents.Mamdani is a two faced hard leftist/Islamist as the former communist,the American author and writer David Horowitz warned about years ago.
Horowitz,recently nifter,called it the red(Marxist),Green(Islamist)
axis.It is active only with the democrat party in Ilhan Omar,who married her brother to acquire American citizenship illegally,and has fostered massive fraud within the Minneapolis Somali immigrants in marrying women by Sharia off the books,while causing 98%of this welfare fraud as unmarried mothers in Minnesota,recently revealed.
The other poster girl for this axis of evil is Rashida Tlaib in Michigan.They both are vehement in their anti American and Israel screeds.
Mamdani wanted this meeting.Trump has had meetings worldwide to improve relations with nations around the world.He is responsible for nine war type stipulations being ameliorated.Further,putting pressure on unfair trade,has caused many U.S. and foreign companies to relocate production to the U.S.Especially critical industries as auto manufacturing.
Mamdani,as unlike other leftist tyrants,perhaps can be reasoned with.Trump can withhold federal funds or cause him to rethink his extremism.It is called,lehavdil hishtadlus.Flattery is better than immediate acrimony.A perfect example is the reform rabbi Stephen Wise,in the book the “The Unheeded Cry”,and Michael Dov Weissmandel.It is recorded by the Slovakian ambassador to Germany and SS officer Dieter Wisliceny, that “Wisilceny used this occasion to recall one of the speeches of the Jewish Reform leader,Rabbi Stephen Wise,in which he had castigated Hitler and prophesied his downfall.When Hitler heard of the speech he became violently angry and bit the carpet and threatened to destroy(them all)the Jews.”
The requirement to appease the gentiles when in exile did
not occur to this “rabbi”.
Trump said that if needed Israel could go back into Gaza later if terrorism persists.There will be a multi country protection initially that has been decided.
As for Putin,he is much stronger than Ukraine and would win in the future.Talk about Obama and Biden.Both were hellbent on keeping Iran with nuclear capability after the threshold was already met.Antony Blinken,the Secretary of State,whose father was the European leader of George Soros’ “Open Society foundation”in Paris.It is the founder of Black Lives Matter in the U.S.Left wing prosecutors Fanni Willis in Atlanta,Albin Bragg in New York and Los Angeles and San Francisco.Also Secretaries of State in many states and paid protesters in every anti Israel protest everywhere.Antony Blinken had a first assistant,Robert Malley.Malley was a double agent who was stripped of his security clearance in having top secret documents given to Iran.
As for Netanyahu and his source for Epstein and Mossad.Ehud Barak and Epstein were very close when each worked their intelligence agencies.Barak did many deals with Epstein when Clinton was president and Obama as well.Barak gained much of his largesse in these mossad deals with Mongolia for copper mining and many others.He went 33 times to Epstein island and both were facilitators for secret government activities.He was prime minister and defense minister and a mossad asset.
Epstein started in 1981 after his work at Bear Stearns.He was recruited to facilitate the Saudi Arabian arms magnate Adnan Khashoggi,and deliver arms to Iran for money to the Contras in Nicaragua,fighting the communist dictator Daniel Ortega.Ortega is back in power today,46 years later.Epstein had an Austrian passport seized in his arrest.He also had a Saudi residence.Epstein was given by the CIA a secretive airline without serial numbers called Air America doing missions around the world and facilitating money transfers from countries.He was given sole oversight of a company, “Limited Brands”,owned by Les Wexner,88 years old,many years ago.Wexner was also a CIA plant company.His attorney,Arthur Shapiro,was killed mob style in 1985,the day before his testimony for tax fraud.Look up former official with the U.S. State department,Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Communications and information Technology under the earlier Trump administration.Now the executive director of the Foundation For Freedom online,focused on free speech and online censorship.On you tube or in many interviews with Breitbart and others.Information if self censored by a presupposed ideology by yourself and assumed false knowledge presented as truth does no one any good.
You spout bromides not replies of specifics at all.Soros largely funded Black Lives Matter,spell check changed to founded.You lie about Trump without elucidating anything,and not one specific.You Charles Hall are a trolling fool or a left wing mouthpiece.A few hundred illegal Koreans did not hurt Hyundai at all.Inflation is down and hiring is up especially Americans not illegals.
You can be anything you want to be.These groups are allies today.Their collective enemies are the West and Israel.The enemy of my enemy is my friend,an Arab saying.But in the West,Islamists want to bleed the system so they are Marxists socially and Islamists culturally.They vote democrat or the side that is weak and does not harm them.Tlaib and Omar are Islamists and leftists period.Once they take over they then destroy the last enemy,us.
30% of New York Jews voted for Mamdani.So did the immigrants,the welfare class of New York,60% of the total vote.It is lost with Sliwa and and Cuimo.But Trump wants to save New York,even by buttering up a young fool whose parents are Marxists and wealthy from Qatar and his film making mother in the tens of millions.Qatar and China and Soros fund every evil opposition of theirs around the world.
Almost certainly posted by his son Yair with his approval. But we will never find out because he has stopped giving interviews to the Israeli media unless its Channel 14 who will never ask him about such things. But perhaps someone should ask Yossi Cohen who is busy giving lots of interviews as he prepares his political career
> "The Prime Minister of Israel shared an article from a far-left virulently anti-Israel genocide-accusing website which tries to link Epstein with the Mossad!!!"
I'm not a Bibi apologist by any means, but just to be a bit more charitable, while Jacobin magazine (the magazine under question) is indeed far-left (and thus unsurprisingly anti-Israel), it's a quality magazine. I certainly don't agree with their politics (I'm a centrist, and pro-Israel), but years ago I enjoyed reading their articles on general topics, as they have high editorial standards. Of course, you have to take their left-wing/socialist bias into account when reading anything they write.
A good analogy might be to a publication on the other end of the spectrum, a right-wing / conservative publication that is serious, high-quality, intellectually oriented, and Christian-influenced, such as "First Things"
The things Jacobin writes about Israel, or about socialism for that matter, are neither serious, high quality, nor intellectually oriented.
Don't think I've read anything they've written about Israel in particular. But they do have at least some high-quality articles; or at least they did last I read some of their stuff many years ago (and I have no reason to believe that their editorial approach has changed since then).
I read things critically (partially due to my academic background). So even if I completely disagree with the ideological bent, if it's quality, I can still get something out of it. That's why there's still value in reading Marx, for example. Even if his ideology/worldview/conclusions are overall wrong (and harmful), he still raises interesting points, that someone in the political Center or Right wouldn't raise.
In the same way that I'll read, say, thoughtful writings by extreme libertarians, because even though I think their normative ideas and conclusions are completely unrealistic, they still raise interesting points, that aren't raised in mainstream discourse
why not first read the stuff that Jacobin posts about Israel and then write your comments here?
Because I have no interest in doing so, and have no epistemic obligation to do so. The burden of proof is on the OP. And based on what I know, the OP's critique is weak. Since unlike the OP, who doesn't indicate that he's read any Jacobin (only knowing that it's far-left and anti-Israel), I've actually read many articles of theirs. Jacobin is a serious, respected publication. I differ with their ideology, but they shouldn't be dismissed out of hand
So what you are saying is that you cannot be bothered to investigate the claim about their Israel articles but we should still take your opinion seriously. Glad you cleared this up
No, that's not what I'm saying. The OP implies that Jacobin is an illegitimate source, simply because it's left-wing and anti-Israel. I grant the claim that Jacobin is left-wing and anti-Israel. My point is simply that that's not a reason for it not to used as a reference for discussing something factual. Jacobin is a serious publication, that can be relied on regarding factual claims
The statement that the things that Jacobin writes about socialism "are neither serious, high quality, nor intellectually oriented" is simply false.
Socialism might be a bad ideology (an assertion that I broadly agree with), but regardless, that statement is false
Shavout Tov. Here’s another take that seems more likely regarding Trump’s meeting with Mamdani by https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRW1EFyDcjO/?igsh=MTJibjFpZ3VlM3l2bg==
I agree with you about Bibi. His late brother Jonathan is my hero. His letters should be required reading for every Zionist Jew. I often wonder what he would say to Bibi if her were alive…
He would have kept him under control.
Thinking that as well.
Trump, acting friendly to an anti-Semite?!? I am shocked! Shocked!
The name of the man who knows most of the Epstein facts is Mike Benz.Not to be found in left wing media.
You are judgmental without realizing the other alternatives.All left wing politicians in western democracies are always condemning their opponents.Mamdani is a two faced hard leftist/Islamist as the former communist,the American author and writer David Horowitz warned about years ago.
Horowitz,recently nifter,called it the red(Marxist),Green(Islamist)
axis.It is active only with the democrat party in Ilhan Omar,who married her brother to acquire American citizenship illegally,and has fostered massive fraud within the Minneapolis Somali immigrants in marrying women by Sharia off the books,while causing 98%of this welfare fraud as unmarried mothers in Minnesota,recently revealed.
The other poster girl for this axis of evil is Rashida Tlaib in Michigan.They both are vehement in their anti American and Israel screeds.
Mamdani wanted this meeting.Trump has had meetings worldwide to improve relations with nations around the world.He is responsible for nine war type stipulations being ameliorated.Further,putting pressure on unfair trade,has caused many U.S. and foreign companies to relocate production to the U.S.Especially critical industries as auto manufacturing.
Mamdani,as unlike other leftist tyrants,perhaps can be reasoned with.Trump can withhold federal funds or cause him to rethink his extremism.It is called,lehavdil hishtadlus.Flattery is better than immediate acrimony.A perfect example is the reform rabbi Stephen Wise,in the book the “The Unheeded Cry”,and Michael Dov Weissmandel.It is recorded by the Slovakian ambassador to Germany and SS officer Dieter Wisliceny, that “Wisilceny used this occasion to recall one of the speeches of the Jewish Reform leader,Rabbi Stephen Wise,in which he had castigated Hitler and prophesied his downfall.When Hitler heard of the speech he became violently angry and bit the carpet and threatened to destroy(them all)the Jews.”
The requirement to appease the gentiles when in exile did
not occur to this “rabbi”.
Trump said that if needed Israel could go back into Gaza later if terrorism persists.There will be a multi country protection initially that has been decided.
As for Putin,he is much stronger than Ukraine and would win in the future.Talk about Obama and Biden.Both were hellbent on keeping Iran with nuclear capability after the threshold was already met.Antony Blinken,the Secretary of State,whose father was the European leader of George Soros’ “Open Society foundation”in Paris.It is the founder of Black Lives Matter in the U.S.Left wing prosecutors Fanni Willis in Atlanta,Albin Bragg in New York and Los Angeles and San Francisco.Also Secretaries of State in many states and paid protesters in every anti Israel protest everywhere.Antony Blinken had a first assistant,Robert Malley.Malley was a double agent who was stripped of his security clearance in having top secret documents given to Iran.
As for Netanyahu and his source for Epstein and Mossad.Ehud Barak and Epstein were very close when each worked their intelligence agencies.Barak did many deals with Epstein when Clinton was president and Obama as well.Barak gained much of his largesse in these mossad deals with Mongolia for copper mining and many others.He went 33 times to Epstein island and both were facilitators for secret government activities.He was prime minister and defense minister and a mossad asset.
Epstein started in 1981 after his work at Bear Stearns.He was recruited to facilitate the Saudi Arabian arms magnate Adnan Khashoggi,and deliver arms to Iran for money to the Contras in Nicaragua,fighting the communist dictator Daniel Ortega.Ortega is back in power today,46 years later.Epstein had an Austrian passport seized in his arrest.He also had a Saudi residence.Epstein was given by the CIA a secretive airline without serial numbers called Air America doing missions around the world and facilitating money transfers from countries.He was given sole oversight of a company, “Limited Brands”,owned by Les Wexner,88 years old,many years ago.Wexner was also a CIA plant company.His attorney,Arthur Shapiro,was killed mob style in 1985,the day before his testimony for tax fraud.Look up former official with the U.S. State department,Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Communications and information Technology under the earlier Trump administration.Now the executive director of the Foundation For Freedom online,focused on free speech and online censorship.On you tube or in many interviews with Breitbart and others.Information if self censored by a presupposed ideology by yourself and assumed false knowledge presented as truth does no one any good.
You spout bromides not replies of specifics at all.Soros largely funded Black Lives Matter,spell check changed to founded.You lie about Trump without elucidating anything,and not one specific.You Charles Hall are a trolling fool or a left wing mouthpiece.A few hundred illegal Koreans did not hurt Hyundai at all.Inflation is down and hiring is up especially Americans not illegals.
You can be anything you want to be.These groups are allies today.Their collective enemies are the West and Israel.The enemy of my enemy is my friend,an Arab saying.But in the West,Islamists want to bleed the system so they are Marxists socially and Islamists culturally.They vote democrat or the side that is weak and does not harm them.Tlaib and Omar are Islamists and leftists period.Once they take over they then destroy the last enemy,us.
30% of New York Jews voted for Mamdani.So did the immigrants,the welfare class of New York,60% of the total vote.It is lost with Sliwa and and Cuimo.But Trump wants to save New York,even by buttering up a young fool whose parents are Marxists and wealthy from Qatar and his film making mother in the tens of millions.Qatar and China and Soros fund every evil opposition of theirs around the world.
Almost certainly posted by his son Yair with his approval. But we will never find out because he has stopped giving interviews to the Israeli media unless its Channel 14 who will never ask him about such things. But perhaps someone should ask Yossi Cohen who is busy giving lots of interviews as he prepares his political career