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Irwin Rubin's avatar

Good article.

I think you realize that many charedim are struggling with these issues.

My 17 year old charedi grandson has donated blood, my 15 yearold charedi granddaughter is helping to prepare food packages.

I feel you have appropriately toned down your rhetoric. Hopefully we will be able to address your issues soon.

Yours,

Yitzchak

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L_________'s avatar

Would love to hear your thoughts on this idea that's been circulating that there were kibbutzim nearby that escaped invasion because they were shomer Shabbos.

See here, at 11:50 to 12:30, for an example: https://rebgershonribner.com/hamas-massacre-was-all-our-avoda-and-teshuva-on-the-yomim-noraim-rejected

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Natan Slifkin's avatar

It's silly, it's offensive, and it's not even true.

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L_________'s avatar

Thanks. To the third point, do you happen to know how it originated? Like, was it a recycling of an existing urban legend from another recent conflict? Or a misunderstanding of recent events at real kibbutzim?

Of course, someone might have just made it up out of whole cloth on the spot.

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Michael's avatar

It was because their gates were closed for YomTov and the terrorists couldn't get in. I would ask why the gates to the others were open? I am always surprised at the number of yishuvim with gates open without anyone on guard duty during the day. It seems that most of them are in areas outside of Yehuda/Shomron in what people foolishly call "Israel Proper". AFAIK those yushuvim always have closed or at least guarded gates.

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L_________'s avatar

Ah, interesting, thank you.

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Michael's avatar

AFAIK the yishuvim in Yehuda/Shomron ..

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L_________'s avatar

I am watching an example of this play out on social media now. The OP who posted the below meme seems sweet and genuinely is not understanding why there is any negative reaction:

"Last night I participated in a Tefillah/Chizuk gathering at my Shul. One Rav offered the following message which resonated with me. He said that while many people have been drafted to the army to defend Eretz Yisrael, in truth, we have all been called up. We just have to figure out which division we belong to. Are we among those driving tanks at the border of Gaza to protect our people, or are we in the Prayer division, focusing on the Koach of Tefillah? There are so many divisions, including the Ahavas Yisrael division, the Tzedaka division, and the Torah learning divisions, to name a few I encourage each of us to identify the division in which we can be most useful during this difficult time."

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