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Martin Spitzer's avatar

I was also disturbed by your comment. I chose not to respond at the time, as others already had, and I didn’t feel it necessary to add to the criticism.

Before you assume otherwise—yes, I live in the UK, and therefore I do not have children in uniform. I don’t judge you or your community for the feelings you’ve expressed toward those who don’t serve. You’ve spoken eloquently about your experiences and pain.

However, sometimes it takes someone from the outside to notice when a line has been crossed. That’s not to say, “we don’t get it”—it’s precisely because we don’t fully share your perspective that we can more objectively see when criticism tips over into hate speech. Getting laughs at the expense of those who have suffered is not justification.

I am not angry or judgmental. I recognize that I cannot fully understand your community. But I do respectfully feel that, in this instance, you crossed a line.

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Martin Spitzer's avatar

Sorry this line is incorrect, "Getting laughs at the expense of those who have suffered is not justification." I meant, "getting laughs from those that have suffered is not a justification".

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Dan Klein's avatar

I did find that last line jarring, and I would not have included it. As the noted writer Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch said, “Whenever you feel an impulse to perpetrate a piece of exceptionally fine writing, obey it — whole-heartedly — and delete it before sending your manuscript to press. Murder your darlings.” That said, I do appreciate the feeling behind that particular "darling." In any case, I'm glad that you have now given it further thought.

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Harold Landa's avatar

YK. חזק ואמץ. The comparison to Charlie Kirk was amusing, as all ‘gdoilim’ are open to free speech😄

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Joseph's avatar

The line was particularly ironic given the well-known Mishnah in Avot 2-10.

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