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Natan Slifkin's avatar

I received this comment from a rabbi who was in attendance:

I was at the event, and one of the things I noticed is how sparse the crowd was. You can even see it in the pictures posted on YWN. It took a long time before the room felt even remotely full. I think one of the reasons for that is that events like this are actually counterproductive for the Haredi community, and there are two main reasons why.

First, when you listen to the arguments being presented by the Gedolim, they are simply not compelling. The analysis isn’t deep or penetrating, and it doesn’t seriously engage with the full range of relevant sources. Much of it is superficial, often based on misinformation, with incorrect facts and full of fairly shallow arguments that have never really been subjected to rigorous scrutiny. For someone within the Haredi community, it’s often easier, and safer, to avoid these topics altogether. Not thinking about them is preferable, because thinking about them and then realizing how weak the arguments are can be deeply unsettling. That’s why many people would rather not attend these events at all and prefer simply not to engage.

The second reason, and I think this is the more fundamental problem, is that the entire Haredi system rests on Daas Torah as its ultimate backstop. If you’ve ever had a full conversation about these issues with someone Haredi, you’ll recognize the pattern: when their arguments start to fail, they eventually retreat to the claim that “it’s Daas Torah.” If your arguments seem more correct or compelling, the response is that your disagreement is ultimately with the Gedolim; go argue with them. Surely the Gedolim are wise and brilliant, and there must be deep reasons behind their positions, even if we don’t understand them.

But the problem arises when you actually pull back the curtain. When the Wizard of Oz is revealed, when the Gedolim themselves appear publicly and articulate their reasoning, the mystique collapses. Instead of encountering an all-knowing oracle, you often hear weak, superficial, and poorly thought-out arguments. The Gedolim don’t have any hidden truth; their arguments are exactly the same as what the average guy on the street says.

What’s exposed is not hidden wisdom, but a group of elderly men who may possess enormous Torah knowledge, yet who have not seriously engaged in analytical thinking on these issues or had their ideas rigorously tested.

And at that point, you realize there’s nothing there. From the community’s own perspective, it would be far better to keep the oracle hidden, to believe that there is some profound wisdom beyond our comprehension, than to reveal it and expose the fragility of the arguments on which the entire system rests.

bruce sloan's avatar

With Ner Israel and Lakewood currently in the grips of anti-Israel Haredim where can an Orthodox family send a son in the United States to avoid this contamination.

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