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Oren Bez's avatar

if Tractate Horayoth focuses on the laws pertaining to erroneous rulings made by a Jewish court then I think it is safe to say that the rabbis "don't always know". I guess some Charedim attribute papal infallibility to our rabbis.

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EJV's avatar

Keep speaking the truth Rabbi! Yeshar Ko’ach. It’s 2025 and these people are living in 1825🙀

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Natan Slifkin's avatar

Thanks, but you're nearly a century off; charedi Judaism started in 1914. See https://www.rationalistjudaism.com/p/happy-100th-birthday-daas-torah. And they served in the IDF until Begin gave them a blanket exemption.

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Norman Kahan's avatar

Like what you wrote. The whole concept of the Das Gedolim is a fabrication to keep the masses under control. Look at their many serious mistakes and the consequences.

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Avi Rosenthal's avatar

What's wrong with bashing the Haredim?

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ChayaD's avatar

Spot on commentary.

Anyone who would like to get behind the (idolatrious) idea that these-or any- "Rabbonim" are infallible would do very well to remember- exactly as you noted- that thousands of Jews died because they were encouraged to stay in Europe by "Rabbonim". (No one ever wants to deal with that issue, as Rabbi Wein has noted.)

It is no mitzvah to sacrifice common sense on the altar of 'Daas Torah'. Someone should let this poor soul writing for the Mishpacha magazine know that.

As a matter of fact, maybe someone should let Mishpacha know that it's time to wake up and shoulder some responsibility for the actual, existential future of their readers.

The so-called "Rabbonim" of today are absolutely tone deaf to what is happening today- both in Israel and in the US and beyond. And so we are headed towards tragedy yet again. Israel is seriously losing the ability to defend itself, and Jews in the Diaspora may yet again lose in this wave of terrible, palpable anti-Semitism.

I think it's clear that Mishpacha and its ilk are a sinking ship. These inane articles are the gasps of an enterprise sinking in its own sea of ignorance and arrogance.

What a shame that this is what the "Torah" world has stooped too. To borrow from the קינות we read yesterday:

אוי, מה היה לנו.

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David Ilan's avatar

Hundreds thousands died due to belief in their false prophets. You could even claim rationally in the millions who believed them that the storm would pass.

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David Dolties's avatar

It is not bashing Haredim.It is simply requiring them to participate in the defence of Israel in partnership with many Torah true Jews from the Dati Leumi

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EJV's avatar

My faux pas Rabbi, but you get my drift.

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