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Noson, this is not a great post. Of Course Dr. Adina Schick knows that Noah's Ark does not represent contemporary scientific thought, but she is doing her best to negate the NY school board from dictating curriculum to Torah schools. I personally, as you know, am very knowledgeable in most of the sciences (for a layman) and I laud the teaching of science in frum schools. But on the other hand, I'm sure you agree that Torah is more important than science, and some Chasidim (and even Yeshivish as in Lakewood) eschew extended education in the sciences. I don't agree that is the best educational profile, but as long as the schools produce Torah educated fine individuals, I think it is wrong to pressure them to change. However, I don't want the secular authorities to get a foot in the door of curriculum in Jewish schools; that happened when the communists took over Russia, and they wiped out Torah education. I don't care if they cut funding, as long as they leave us alone.

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Here, I don't think the many of the applications of the Noah's ark story are actually a poor match to state standards. Here is a link to the standards, which they have for kindergarten, first grade, etc.

https://www.nylearns.org/module/Standards/Tools/Browse?LinkStandardId=0&StandardId=190505

You can expand each, and sometimes see examples of each. How does a kindergartener accomplish the subgoal of "contextualization"? Their sub-subgoal examples is: Identify similarities between home and school; identify similarities between him/herself and others; describe an event in his/her life.

These goals each have fancy names, but break it down, and the way they suggest one meet these are things one might write a substack criticizing as too basic. In reality, these are all basic. They don't require grappling with how kangaroos got on the ark. (Midrashim asking how the re'em fit on the ark, or how Og survived could be similar.) Asking how Avraham was similar but different from Noach in terms of righteousness. Describing an event in the parsha. And so on. Yes, expectations should shift by grade, but these aren't *really* kvetches, any more than typical assignment of what is taught is matched to these standards.

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