I've been thinking for a while about the sad overlap of Charedi society with Palestinian society: rock throwing and violence, corrupt leaders that people blindly follow, no civic responsibility or personal responsibility, inflammatory rhetoric, lack of respect for others- and now lack of respect for life as evidenced by the claim that we will die rather than be drafted (as this father reinforces.)
It's just terrible that this comparison is even relevant.
Over Chanukah I heard that the latest refrain among Charedi kids is that if you join the חשמונאי brigade, you are "מתייון"- becoming like the יוונים/Greeks. So their rallying cry is to be a Maccabi and resist. I could've cried.
My prayer now is that the חשמונאי brigade is successful beyond all imagination. That אמת will prevail. I feel like I can't daven for אחדות anymore, because joining with a faction that honors death over life is clearly not an אחדות I can endorse.
If no charedi has sufficient commitment to Torah to stay observant after serving in the army, what does that say about the state of charedi education/upbringing?
Another twist - apparently the great-grandfather of the deceased was an IDF soldier in the War of Independence, and previously was responsible for the recruitment of charedim to the Etzel militia. He must be spinning in his grave these days.
I've been thinking for a while about the sad overlap of Charedi society with Palestinian society: rock throwing and violence, corrupt leaders that people blindly follow, no civic responsibility or personal responsibility, inflammatory rhetoric, lack of respect for others- and now lack of respect for life as evidenced by the claim that we will die rather than be drafted (as this father reinforces.)
It's just terrible that this comparison is even relevant.
Over Chanukah I heard that the latest refrain among Charedi kids is that if you join the חשמונאי brigade, you are "מתייון"- becoming like the יוונים/Greeks. So their rallying cry is to be a Maccabi and resist. I could've cried.
My prayer now is that the חשמונאי brigade is successful beyond all imagination. That אמת will prevail. I feel like I can't daven for אחדות anymore, because joining with a faction that honors death over life is clearly not an אחדות I can endorse.
He literally sounds like a Hamas parent. This is insane.
If no charedi has sufficient commitment to Torah to stay observant after serving in the army, what does that say about the state of charedi education/upbringing?
Easy it’s extremely faulty and prone to failure
Talk is cheap. This is after-the-fact rationalizing. Still heinous for him to say this, of course
Another twist - apparently the great-grandfather of the deceased was an IDF soldier in the War of Independence, and previously was responsible for the recruitment of charedim to the Etzel militia. He must be spinning in his grave these days.
https://www.facebook.com/reiyyaa/posts/pfbid02R3z1dM6dejkyi29Q39DaKnoTQBc6fWfxiNW6xdqCvAdyQ4pVuQkJwj5XdX4uDhCGl
At least someone in that family had honor and truth.
I just feel sad.
Why "tragic" death?
I assume (hope) that you are using the term in the Shakespearian literary sense and not in the commonly used sense of today.