Here's what Rabbi Nechemia Steinberger posted about it:
פסגת הצביעות
1. נילחם באקדמיה כדי שחלילה חרדים לא יוכלו להתפרנס בכבוד
2. נילחם בממ״ח כדי שהילדים שלהם חלילה לא יתפרנסו בעתיד
3. לא נקבל אותם למוסדות החינוך שלנו כדי שחלילה הילדים שלהם לא ישפיעו על הילדים שלנו.
4. נגייס כספים מתורמים תמימים בחו״ל כדי לתמוך בחרדים עובדים ובלבד שהם מהסוג ״הנכון״. רק אלו שמוכנים חלילה לעבוד לפרנסתם אבל להרגיש סוג ד׳
5. נחזור לארץ וחלילה לא נדבר בשום מקום על הנושא, לא ניתן ייצוג פוליטי לצרכי הקבוצה הזו, ובמחשכים נחלק את הכסף לפונקציונרים שלנו שיתפרנסו מעוד פרוייקט פייק.
I'm honestly confused. " the scam, according to my sources (and I don’t see a more plausible explanation), is as follows".
But then it's not explained what the scam is. It's only explained that there *must* be a scam. Is the claim that they're simply lying? Seems a bit too bold even for them
They're raising money to keep people AWAY from economic (and socio-religious) independence. It's supporting the model of people who avoid getting an education and looking for work until it's too late to get anything that pays any real amount.
So when they write "to support communities of working Bnei Torah", it's a bald-faced lie? Seems a bit too bold even for them.
And I'm still confused by the line in the post "the scam, according to my sources (and I don’t see a more plausible explanation), is as follows". it's not explained what the scam is. It's only explained that there *must* be a scam. They're just straight-up fabricating that they're "support[ing] communities of working Bnei Torah" to get people to give them money?
No, you're misunderstanding. The money is indeed going to such people (presumably). But it's as part of a system that is utterly opposed to education and also to work except as an absolute last resort, and which looks down on those who work.
Ah. So if that's the case, it's not a scam. It's a form of overall whitewashing, sure. But if the money is indeed going to working charedim, don't think it's reasonable to call it a scam.
Not 100% clear to me either but I'm guessing/assuming that the idea is that people will give money assuming it goes to help charedim find work but that this money will be used for other purposes. It does sound kind of dumb. Anyone going to that meeting today? I'd love to hear what they say.
Here's what Rabbi Nechemia Steinberger posted about it:
פסגת הצביעות
1. נילחם באקדמיה כדי שחלילה חרדים לא יוכלו להתפרנס בכבוד
2. נילחם בממ״ח כדי שהילדים שלהם חלילה לא יתפרנסו בעתיד
3. לא נקבל אותם למוסדות החינוך שלנו כדי שחלילה הילדים שלהם לא ישפיעו על הילדים שלנו.
4. נגייס כספים מתורמים תמימים בחו״ל כדי לתמוך בחרדים עובדים ובלבד שהם מהסוג ״הנכון״. רק אלו שמוכנים חלילה לעבוד לפרנסתם אבל להרגיש סוג ד׳
5. נחזור לארץ וחלילה לא נדבר בשום מקום על הנושא, לא ניתן ייצוג פוליטי לצרכי הקבוצה הזו, ובמחשכים נחלק את הכסף לפונקציונרים שלנו שיתפרנסו מעוד פרוייקט פייק.
אוי לה לאותה בושה
That's indeed a very apropos descriptor of their behavior - צביעות (hypocrisy)
אל תתיראי מן הפרושין ולא ממי שאינן פרושין, אלא מן הצבועין שדומין לפרושין, שמעשיהן כמעשה זמרי ומבקשין שכר כפנחס
The TM was brilliant
I'm honestly confused. " the scam, according to my sources (and I don’t see a more plausible explanation), is as follows".
But then it's not explained what the scam is. It's only explained that there *must* be a scam. Is the claim that they're simply lying? Seems a bit too bold even for them
They're raising money to keep people AWAY from economic (and socio-religious) independence. It's supporting the model of people who avoid getting an education and looking for work until it's too late to get anything that pays any real amount.
Right, I understand that.
So when they write "to support communities of working Bnei Torah", it's a bald-faced lie? Seems a bit too bold even for them.
And I'm still confused by the line in the post "the scam, according to my sources (and I don’t see a more plausible explanation), is as follows". it's not explained what the scam is. It's only explained that there *must* be a scam. They're just straight-up fabricating that they're "support[ing] communities of working Bnei Torah" to get people to give them money?
No, you're misunderstanding. The money is indeed going to such people (presumably). But it's as part of a system that is utterly opposed to education and also to work except as an absolute last resort, and which looks down on those who work.
Ah. So if that's the case, it's not a scam. It's a form of overall whitewashing, sure. But if the money is indeed going to working charedim, don't think it's reasonable to call it a scam.
(Agree with your general sentiment, of course.)
It's a scam in that it presents itself as supporting charedim working, whereas it's actually people who are against charedim working.
Not 100% clear to me either but I'm guessing/assuming that the idea is that people will give money assuming it goes to help charedim find work but that this money will be used for other purposes. It does sound kind of dumb. Anyone going to that meeting today? I'd love to hear what they say.