and even though numerous people have pointed out that this is a complete fabrication, he still keeps the same post up on X. There are many other examples on X of this type of behavior.
This is just another wolf in sheep's clothes, someone who has a different strategy (in this case, taqiyya), but the same ultimate goal. Don't be fooled.
I have followed Ahemed FouadcAl Khatib since 10-7-23.
I’ve heard him speak on X spaces( the English ones, I wonder what is said in Arabic spaces )he criticizes Hamas,and wants them gone. But he criticizes the IDF and Bibi and his government equally harshly.. He does not offer any viable suggestions for how to eradicate Hamas .He has been calling for a ceasefire deal that would leave Hamas in power. Telling the IDF to do the bloody work of eradicating Hamas while endlessly criticizing is not productive..
There is no bloodless way of removing a dictatorship.
Douglas Murray, who is usually on the money in his analysis, once asked, "Why couldn't the people of Gaza rise up and remove Hamas from power?" That was a bit naive for him to say that. We see how Hamas handles dissenters, even before the current war. And Gazans who have spoken up now have been found shot to death.
"Breaking: Today, Hamas militias killed the Palestinian activist Ziad Abu Hayya. Returning to his tent with some food for his kids, Hamas militias shot him in the head in front of his children.
Ziad was known for his criticism of Hamas and their reckless actions that led the Gazan people to slaughter, particularly from a video in which he pleaded, "Save us from Hamas."
On 7th September 2024, Hamas kidnapped Ziad, subjected him to brutal torture, and broke his limbs. Yet even this barbarity was not enough for them."
You kind of answered your own point in yMur comment: when Douglas Nurray asks why don’t the Palestinians overthrow Hamas, he’s not necessarily naïve about the cost of such resistance.
But his trademark moral clarity has him putting the onus for that undoubtedly dangerous resistance where it belongs: on the Palestinians.
Yes, as you say, blood would need to be shed to overthrow this entrenched depraved govt. And the way it works throughout history, and by any sense of fairness, is that those who are being governed… and supposedly want to govern themselves… and get a ridiculous pass for all the evil acts of their government… they need to be prepared to sacrifice, and overthrow that government.
You don’t just get a pass for 100 years, of claiming to have “bad leadership” that you don’t want, didn’t elect… and yet openly approve of in every poll, and celebrate every time they succeeded in pulling off one of their anti-Jewish atrocities… All while waiting for Israel to remove the terrorists who run your government.
This isn’t Avram debating with God about destroying Sodom. In human warfare, the proportion of *truly* innocent people caught in the crossfire is normally much, much higher than in Gaza, where by all indications, throughout their short history, exceedingly few of them gavecever credibly condemned anti-Jewish terrorism. They only complain about the results—i.e. when Israel hits back—or when their terrorist leaders are directly mean to them, the Palestinians.
Any attempt to spin their attitude as anything but thoroughly hypocritical, self-indulgent, and shot through with antisemitism is gaslighting.
No ass hole! First, you have no fucking idea of my ethnicity.
And second , I don’t rape women, I don’t burn babies in ovens and I don’t cut people’s heads off.
But I sure would blow the fuck out of all of those that support those that do.
Now, why done you take a little stroll in Gaza and see how fucking long your head is attached to your body.
They’ve been telling the Israelis that they were going to exterminate them for fifty years.
You’re too stupid to believe it. And unfortunately there’s a lot of dead Israelis that have paid the price for being braindead with what you’re dealing with .
Most such “good” Palestinians—the guy featured in your article is a perfect example— bitterly condemn Hamas, yet don’t see the contradiction in equally faulting Israel for defending itself against those same violence, bloodthirsty, unrepentant savages.
Doubling down on the hypocrisy, the same Palestinians are never expected to resist Hamas—those guys are mean & ruthless!—but Israel gets criticized for not being even more precise in how it fights Hamas.
In other words, even Palestinians who “totally hate Hamas” still feel not enough Israeli soldiers have given their lives to protect… the Palestinians, who are never expected to protect their own lives. Their indulgent sense of victimhood & entitlement knows no bounds.
Rabbi, you’re being disingenuous; you know perfectly well what he means, just as you know perfectly well that 99% of the Jews who make overly broad remarks like his would not actually kill a random Palestinian in cold blood, much less one who seemed to “totally disagree with what Hamas did.”
Are ALL Jews perfect, gentle people? No.
Is Jewish culture overwhelmingly non-violent & respectful of human life?
Yes—to a remarkable degree.
Is Palestinian “society“ the same way? Absolutely not.
Historically, do random, “normal” Palestinians sometimes decide to just stab the nearest Jew w/a knife or ram their car into Jewish bystanders?
You’re reacting emotionally—as many Compassionate, virtue-signaling Jews tend to do—to the harshness of his comment, while simply ignoring the salient point:
Very few Palestinians clearly condemned Oct. 7. Many Palestinians openly celebrated, and PARTICIPATED in the atrocities… Theirs is not a normally moral society, and never has been: they have never collectively renounced terrorism, or condemned any depraved atrocity perpetrated on Jews by Hamas, or the PLO, or the Muslim Brotherhood for the PLIJ… Or quite often by plain old Palestinian terrorists.
Larry’s comment was blunt, even crass… But your brand of horrified indignation & pearl-clutching shock—that any Jew would wish death on people who constantly & loudly proclaim their violent hate for the Jews!—this sort of ostentatiously humane, martyrly virtue went decisively out of fashion, on Oct. 7, 2023.
Sorry, we don't need validation from the likes of Ahmed. No doubt plenty of Jews will crawl on the floor for these little scraps from his table, but that's the sickness of lack of self respect.
I disagree. When we argue our case, we're dismissed as biased. When a Gazan whose own are suffering at the hands of the IDF points out what we've been saying all along about Hamas's use of human shields, their capitalizing on civilian casualties for PR, their war crimes, and how they've destroyed Gaza in their single-minded determination to eliminate Israel--and has even-handed criticism of both sides, his words can't be cast aside so easily.
These words are not just validation; they're ammunition to use against those who assign to Israel all the blame for the suffering the Gazans now endure.
If by "arguing" you mean presenting facts and evidence, then it only pays to argue in front of reasonable people, who could be expected to understand what an ad hominem argument is. So who we are, and who he is, and who anyone is, would be irrelevant. We don't need him as a witness for what Hamas has done; we have plenty of those. And using his words as ammunition carries the danger that we would then also have to credit his criticisms of the IDF. Why would we want to do that? You don't split the difference when you're in the right.
Well said, I didn't read the comments before I restocked and I and too many are eager and possibly gullible to find the good Arabs, 90% of which dwell within Israel the other several in the UAE
This makes sense on paper, and most of us have felt the same way. But at a certain point, you’re just departing from the ongoing reality: there are numerous clips of the very few courageous outspoken Palestinians/Arabs like Yosef Haddad or Mousab Hasan Yousef speaking out on these topics—
And the proudly ignorant woke Lefties shout them down & dismiss them as if they were honorary Jews.
Continuing to insist that you will find just the right clever argument, or the right speaker—a Palestinian who hates Hamas!—and *that* will finally change their minds is itself just another form of irrationally clinging to something that contradicts the reality before your eyes. It’s not always “touchingly hopeful” of “bravely fighting the odds” to deny hard reality.
Exactly—well said. So sick of people getting all excited anytime a Palestinian says what is obvious to any intelligent human—while they also criticize Israel for defending itself.
I can see from some of the comments here that we have a subset of Jews that acknowledge some right Israel may have to self defense but don't want too much self defense. It's very awkward to have to please opposing sides simultaneously, and this can be a cause of stress. Fortunately, I'm here for you and I have a solution. Allow me to introduce "Schrodinger's Genocide". Like the famous Schrodinger's cat, this is a genocide allegedly committed by Israel that both exists and doesn't exist at the same time. With Schrodinger's Genocide, one may attend any social event and side with any crowd in good conscience, rightly claiming to be the most moral and sophisticated person in the room. This takes "both sides" to a whole new level.
First, I would like to commend u for promoting a Palestinian voice that is still critical of Israel.
However, I’d like to also push you a little to reflect and see that if you think his criticisms of Hamas and Palestinian leadership is sharp, maybe take seriously his criticism of Israel as well.
I will not hold my breath awaiting your valid criticism of Israel. Einat Wolf an Israeli Oslo Peace negotiator and former leftist who now sees reality as it is and I both agree there is no valid criticism of the IDF and the way this war has been prosecuted, John Spencer from West point agrees along with Colonel Kemp from England marvel at the amazingly low civilian to combatant death ratios, never achieved before in modern warfare all while dealing with senile malignant Joe, the world and five other war fronts while the US Navy stood down against the houthis for 9 months allowing shipping to constrict along with replenishment of military supplies that the US was obligated to provide to Israel which were again constricted, prolonging the war along with accusations of famine in Gaza, look at those fat bitches and tell me there's a famine
But so what? Maybe he's correct in his criticism of Hamas and incorrect in criticism of Israel. It is possible for one side to be right and the other side to be wrong, you know. Moral relativism can in fact be a form of immorality.
And this person—whose criticism of Israel you want us to take seriously—is somehow an expert on how Israel should conduct complex warfare, against what he himself describes, as utterly ruthless, depraved, dishonest, violent terrorists?
Oh, OK.
Fool. People are crediting him for his criticism of Palestinian leadership, not because of its amazing originality & insight—every self-respecting Jewish kid above the age of 13 could tell you most of this stuff.
It’s just sadly rare to see a Palestinian honest, perceptive, objective or brave enough to say these things.
Ahmed is truly a breath of fresh air! What makes him an honest and clear voice is that he doesn't only call out Hamas and Palestinian "supporters" around the world who are actually harming the Palestinian cause, he also makes it clear that those on the Israeli side who say that there are no good Palestinians or that all Gazans are terrorists have no clue. He also points out the excesses of the Israeli military, which Hasbarapathic Israelis and Israeli supporters seem unable to grasp. To be fair, you mention it in passing, but here's one of many quotes by Ahmed to add the many quotes in your article. This fairness and clear eyed view is what makes Ahmed's voice so important and unique.
"Every single day, dozens of Palestinian civilians are being killed, maimed & reduced to piles of human remains by IDF airstrikes in what continues to be a reckless targeting strategy that kills an intolerable number of uninvolved non-combatants. This isn't releasing Israeli hostages; it's slaughtering a battered population that's trapped between a ruthless terror organization and a criminal war machine with no way out. The daily killing of civilians, visible with documenting footage & an abundance of evidence proves that these deaths are confirmed and not "pallywood" as the deranged psychopaths of Twitter will tell you; it must end now."
Actually, this is where his (understandable) emotion prevents him from being clear-eyed. He has no idea and no way to know whether the targeting strategy is reckless. He has no basis to declare that the number of non-combatants killed is excessive given the situation. What the IDF is doing is exactly what (or less) than what the US or any other nation would do in such circumstances. And the goal of the war is not only to get the hostages out, but also to destroy Hamas (which Ahmed himself agrees should be done). Alas, Ahmed is so exceptional, and some people are so besotted by him, that they themselves lack a clear-eyed view and are incapable of seeing where he gets things wrong.
In other words, when Ahmed writes and says things that comport with the Hasbara world view he's clear eyed and rational and one can pull endless quotes of his to support that, but when he says things that are at variance with that narrative suddenly he's emotionally compromised. Yet, if one watches him on the many TV interviews he's done what one actually sees, regardless of the topic, is a clear headed, affable guy speaking rationally and unemotionally about the evil of Hamas, the stupidity of the world-wide Palestinian supporters AND the excesses of the IDF and Israel's government.
Everyone is human and fallible and everyone "gets things wrong". The best we can do to mitigate that is to get outside of our echo chambers. People like Ahmed are good at helping us do that, if we want to. Certainly we don't have to take one person's word for it, but given a certain level of honesty and candor it should at least make the rational observer want to step out and look around. Here a couple of links to help people do that if they are interested...
I believe that overall he's got a clear headed view of the situation in all the areas I've described, including the behavior of the IDF. He often cites sources for his claims, so it's not accurate to say he "no evidence". It might be sources or evidence you don't agree with, but it's evidence.
I've never seen him say something that was egregiously wrong. There were things I didn't agree with, but I think his voice so important that I think it would be counterproductive to nitpick at him.
Candace Owens recently said that Israel should just take out the Hamas fighters and spare the civilians, since they demonstrated the ability to take out only the Hezbollah combatants in the pager operation. She doesn't realize how impractical that is in the case of Hamas, where the fighters hide among and move along with the civilian population.
Also, the residents of the Gaza Envelope communities have been subjected to rocket fire for 25 years. The only reason that it was tolerated for so long was because trying to stop it would involve a massive ground operation. As soon as the IDF will leave, Hamas will undoubtedly resume rocket attacks, regardless of who will be in charge of Gaza.
You say he's got a clear-headed view only because he agrees with your anti-Israel stance. Ironically, you then accuse your own people of the same flaw you exhibit.
Doubt those bullshit numbers comport, John Spencer and Colonel Kemp are my reference point in clearing the IDF of any wrongdoing along with continued resupply though constricted of armaments that the US was obligated to ship which it could have stopped shipping fully if Israel was not in compliance with international laws. In addition Israel was required to resupply its enemy and keep the power and water on, fuck off with any bullshit that Israel has to fight the same war that other nations do
There you go. And that is exactly why a lot of people here responded—not with our formerly typical gratitude that someone agrees with us, if only partially!—but with irate impatience:
so some Palestinian ‘graciously’ allows that—as we can all see with our own eyes—the terrorists are actually evil! But so is Israel!
One van care about the people of Gaza, or one can support Hamas. One cannot both support Hamas and also care about the people of Gaza. The two are mutually exclusive.
Just because some Gazan Arab said something bad (yet truthful) against Hamas does not mean this Arab does not hate Israel and would not be ecstatic upon Jewish and Israel’s destruction.
I say, the time is long gone when it made sense to seek friends or partners among non-Israeli, stateless Arabs (ie “Fakestinians”). The only true answer is their utter annihilation or expulsion. Until you acquiesce to this reality, do the crimethink and truly understand that “another shoah” has to mean it is either us or them and nothing in-between, it is just pointless rumination of endless quoting of yet another enemy of the Jews.
He’s against Hamas so that means he condones Israel massacring his family, turning Gaza into rubble, destroying every hospital and starving the entire population to death. He thinks it’s Hamas’ fault, 🙄.
Interesting… but many of us are kind of tired of being pathetically grateful & excited every time some Palestinian states true facts that every Jew has been saying all along…
And of course, despite Ahmed’s very thorough cataloging of Hamas lies & deception—plus his inadvertent highlighting of the Palestinians’ readiness to repeatedly believe the terrorists’ lies—he still has “plenty of complaints” about the IDF’s actions & policies.
Never mind that he is neither a military strategist or a historian, and there is zero basis to claim that any other state on the planet would, or even could, be more precise, humane & cautious than Israel has been in how it has conducted this war.
So what’s the point, really? One more Palestinian criticizing Hamas won’t change any of the sick minds on the anti-Israel Jewish Left. And proud, self-respecting Jews don’t need the qualified, partial approval of Palestinians.
He is no friend of Israel. Here's an example: he posts this on X
https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/1844751647672512987
and even though numerous people have pointed out that this is a complete fabrication, he still keeps the same post up on X. There are many other examples on X of this type of behavior.
This is just another wolf in sheep's clothes, someone who has a different strategy (in this case, taqiyya), but the same ultimate goal. Don't be fooled.
I have followed Ahemed FouadcAl Khatib since 10-7-23.
I’ve heard him speak on X spaces( the English ones, I wonder what is said in Arabic spaces )he criticizes Hamas,and wants them gone. But he criticizes the IDF and Bibi and his government equally harshly.. He does not offer any viable suggestions for how to eradicate Hamas .He has been calling for a ceasefire deal that would leave Hamas in power. Telling the IDF to do the bloody work of eradicating Hamas while endlessly criticizing is not productive..
There is no bloodless way of removing a dictatorship.
Douglas Murray, who is usually on the money in his analysis, once asked, "Why couldn't the people of Gaza rise up and remove Hamas from power?" That was a bit naive for him to say that. We see how Hamas handles dissenters, even before the current war. And Gazans who have spoken up now have been found shot to death.
"Breaking: Today, Hamas militias killed the Palestinian activist Ziad Abu Hayya. Returning to his tent with some food for his kids, Hamas militias shot him in the head in front of his children.
Ziad was known for his criticism of Hamas and their reckless actions that led the Gazan people to slaughter, particularly from a video in which he pleaded, "Save us from Hamas."
On 7th September 2024, Hamas kidnapped Ziad, subjected him to brutal torture, and broke his limbs. Yet even this barbarity was not enough for them."
https://x.com/IhabHassane/status/1865065738270064818
You kind of answered your own point in yMur comment: when Douglas Nurray asks why don’t the Palestinians overthrow Hamas, he’s not necessarily naïve about the cost of such resistance.
But his trademark moral clarity has him putting the onus for that undoubtedly dangerous resistance where it belongs: on the Palestinians.
Yes, as you say, blood would need to be shed to overthrow this entrenched depraved govt. And the way it works throughout history, and by any sense of fairness, is that those who are being governed… and supposedly want to govern themselves… and get a ridiculous pass for all the evil acts of their government… they need to be prepared to sacrifice, and overthrow that government.
You don’t just get a pass for 100 years, of claiming to have “bad leadership” that you don’t want, didn’t elect… and yet openly approve of in every poll, and celebrate every time they succeeded in pulling off one of their anti-Jewish atrocities… All while waiting for Israel to remove the terrorists who run your government.
Don’t want to hear Gazan voices. Just want to see their dead bodies piled up.
What they did to people gleefully on 10/7 should expect no mercy, compassion, or caring.
Kill 32000 more , not 32
That is horrible! I disagree and hope most people do-- it's a repugnant view
So is murdering and raping 1200 unarmed women and children on October 7 and broadcasting it gleefully on their Go Pro s.
So you can take your opinion and shove it up your ass
Are you talking about Hamas, about Hamas supporters, or about anyone in Gaza even if they totally disagree with what Hamas did?
Last poll I’ve seen less than 30% of the sub humans called Palestinians do not totally support what they did on October 7.
Sinwar would be re elected tomorrow if he wasn’t up in the sky with their pig pedophile.
You sound like one of the braindead Jews still believing you don’t totally destroy filth that wants to slit your throats
Gaza should be made totally uninhabitable
So you do agree that there are *some* Palestinians in Gaza who do not want to slit my throat. Should they be killed also?
This isn’t Avram debating with God about destroying Sodom. In human warfare, the proportion of *truly* innocent people caught in the crossfire is normally much, much higher than in Gaza, where by all indications, throughout their short history, exceedingly few of them gavecever credibly condemned anti-Jewish terrorism. They only complain about the results—i.e. when Israel hits back—or when their terrorist leaders are directly mean to them, the Palestinians.
Any attempt to spin their attitude as anything but thoroughly hypocritical, self-indulgent, and shot through with antisemitism is gaslighting.
Yup
You are literally no better than Hamas. Just with the ethnicities switched.
No ass hole! First, you have no fucking idea of my ethnicity.
And second , I don’t rape women, I don’t burn babies in ovens and I don’t cut people’s heads off.
But I sure would blow the fuck out of all of those that support those that do.
Now, why done you take a little stroll in Gaza and see how fucking long your head is attached to your body.
They’ve been telling the Israelis that they were going to exterminate them for fifty years.
You’re too stupid to believe it. And unfortunately there’s a lot of dead Israelis that have paid the price for being braindead with what you’re dealing with .
They need to be expelled from Gaza. Dead or alive
Most such “good” Palestinians—the guy featured in your article is a perfect example— bitterly condemn Hamas, yet don’t see the contradiction in equally faulting Israel for defending itself against those same violence, bloodthirsty, unrepentant savages.
Doubling down on the hypocrisy, the same Palestinians are never expected to resist Hamas—those guys are mean & ruthless!—but Israel gets criticized for not being even more precise in how it fights Hamas.
In other words, even Palestinians who “totally hate Hamas” still feel not enough Israeli soldiers have given their lives to protect… the Palestinians, who are never expected to protect their own lives. Their indulgent sense of victimhood & entitlement knows no bounds.
Rabbi, you’re being disingenuous; you know perfectly well what he means, just as you know perfectly well that 99% of the Jews who make overly broad remarks like his would not actually kill a random Palestinian in cold blood, much less one who seemed to “totally disagree with what Hamas did.”
Are ALL Jews perfect, gentle people? No.
Is Jewish culture overwhelmingly non-violent & respectful of human life?
Yes—to a remarkable degree.
Is Palestinian “society“ the same way? Absolutely not.
Historically, do random, “normal” Palestinians sometimes decide to just stab the nearest Jew w/a knife or ram their car into Jewish bystanders?
Yes, they do.
You’re reacting emotionally—as many Compassionate, virtue-signaling Jews tend to do—to the harshness of his comment, while simply ignoring the salient point:
Very few Palestinians clearly condemned Oct. 7. Many Palestinians openly celebrated, and PARTICIPATED in the atrocities… Theirs is not a normally moral society, and never has been: they have never collectively renounced terrorism, or condemned any depraved atrocity perpetrated on Jews by Hamas, or the PLO, or the Muslim Brotherhood for the PLIJ… Or quite often by plain old Palestinian terrorists.
Larry’s comment was blunt, even crass… But your brand of horrified indignation & pearl-clutching shock—that any Jew would wish death on people who constantly & loudly proclaim their violent hate for the Jews!—this sort of ostentatiously humane, martyrly virtue went decisively out of fashion, on Oct. 7, 2023.
Sorry, we don't need validation from the likes of Ahmed. No doubt plenty of Jews will crawl on the floor for these little scraps from his table, but that's the sickness of lack of self respect.
I disagree. When we argue our case, we're dismissed as biased. When a Gazan whose own are suffering at the hands of the IDF points out what we've been saying all along about Hamas's use of human shields, their capitalizing on civilian casualties for PR, their war crimes, and how they've destroyed Gaza in their single-minded determination to eliminate Israel--and has even-handed criticism of both sides, his words can't be cast aside so easily.
These words are not just validation; they're ammunition to use against those who assign to Israel all the blame for the suffering the Gazans now endure.
I really don't see why we expect to have *any* argument work against people who accuse us of the worst and most evil sorts of utter nonsense.
If by "arguing" you mean presenting facts and evidence, then it only pays to argue in front of reasonable people, who could be expected to understand what an ad hominem argument is. So who we are, and who he is, and who anyone is, would be irrelevant. We don't need him as a witness for what Hamas has done; we have plenty of those. And using his words as ammunition carries the danger that we would then also have to credit his criticisms of the IDF. Why would we want to do that? You don't split the difference when you're in the right.
Well said, I didn't read the comments before I restocked and I and too many are eager and possibly gullible to find the good Arabs, 90% of which dwell within Israel the other several in the UAE
"Even-handed criticism of both sides". Really.
This makes sense on paper, and most of us have felt the same way. But at a certain point, you’re just departing from the ongoing reality: there are numerous clips of the very few courageous outspoken Palestinians/Arabs like Yosef Haddad or Mousab Hasan Yousef speaking out on these topics—
And the proudly ignorant woke Lefties shout them down & dismiss them as if they were honorary Jews.
Continuing to insist that you will find just the right clever argument, or the right speaker—a Palestinian who hates Hamas!—and *that* will finally change their minds is itself just another form of irrationally clinging to something that contradicts the reality before your eyes. It’s not always “touchingly hopeful” of “bravely fighting the odds” to deny hard reality.
I agree. This is a bit distasteful. We should have more self-confidence and a more clear-eyed view of our opponents.
Exactly—well said. So sick of people getting all excited anytime a Palestinian says what is obvious to any intelligent human—while they also criticize Israel for defending itself.
I can see from some of the comments here that we have a subset of Jews that acknowledge some right Israel may have to self defense but don't want too much self defense. It's very awkward to have to please opposing sides simultaneously, and this can be a cause of stress. Fortunately, I'm here for you and I have a solution. Allow me to introduce "Schrodinger's Genocide". Like the famous Schrodinger's cat, this is a genocide allegedly committed by Israel that both exists and doesn't exist at the same time. With Schrodinger's Genocide, one may attend any social event and side with any crowd in good conscience, rightly claiming to be the most moral and sophisticated person in the room. This takes "both sides" to a whole new level.
And it goes without saying that the idea of Israeli *offense* would make them sick.
First, I would like to commend u for promoting a Palestinian voice that is still critical of Israel.
However, I’d like to also push you a little to reflect and see that if you think his criticisms of Hamas and Palestinian leadership is sharp, maybe take seriously his criticism of Israel as well.
I will not hold my breath awaiting your valid criticism of Israel. Einat Wolf an Israeli Oslo Peace negotiator and former leftist who now sees reality as it is and I both agree there is no valid criticism of the IDF and the way this war has been prosecuted, John Spencer from West point agrees along with Colonel Kemp from England marvel at the amazingly low civilian to combatant death ratios, never achieved before in modern warfare all while dealing with senile malignant Joe, the world and five other war fronts while the US Navy stood down against the houthis for 9 months allowing shipping to constrict along with replenishment of military supplies that the US was obligated to provide to Israel which were again constricted, prolonging the war along with accusations of famine in Gaza, look at those fat bitches and tell me there's a famine
And there's the danger of quoting these people.
But so what? Maybe he's correct in his criticism of Hamas and incorrect in criticism of Israel. It is possible for one side to be right and the other side to be wrong, you know. Moral relativism can in fact be a form of immorality.
And this person—whose criticism of Israel you want us to take seriously—is somehow an expert on how Israel should conduct complex warfare, against what he himself describes, as utterly ruthless, depraved, dishonest, violent terrorists?
Oh, OK.
Fool. People are crediting him for his criticism of Palestinian leadership, not because of its amazing originality & insight—every self-respecting Jewish kid above the age of 13 could tell you most of this stuff.
It’s just sadly rare to see a Palestinian honest, perceptive, objective or brave enough to say these things.
Ahmed is truly a breath of fresh air! What makes him an honest and clear voice is that he doesn't only call out Hamas and Palestinian "supporters" around the world who are actually harming the Palestinian cause, he also makes it clear that those on the Israeli side who say that there are no good Palestinians or that all Gazans are terrorists have no clue. He also points out the excesses of the Israeli military, which Hasbarapathic Israelis and Israeli supporters seem unable to grasp. To be fair, you mention it in passing, but here's one of many quotes by Ahmed to add the many quotes in your article. This fairness and clear eyed view is what makes Ahmed's voice so important and unique.
"Every single day, dozens of Palestinian civilians are being killed, maimed & reduced to piles of human remains by IDF airstrikes in what continues to be a reckless targeting strategy that kills an intolerable number of uninvolved non-combatants. This isn't releasing Israeli hostages; it's slaughtering a battered population that's trapped between a ruthless terror organization and a criminal war machine with no way out. The daily killing of civilians, visible with documenting footage & an abundance of evidence proves that these deaths are confirmed and not "pallywood" as the deranged psychopaths of Twitter will tell you; it must end now."
Actually, this is where his (understandable) emotion prevents him from being clear-eyed. He has no idea and no way to know whether the targeting strategy is reckless. He has no basis to declare that the number of non-combatants killed is excessive given the situation. What the IDF is doing is exactly what (or less) than what the US or any other nation would do in such circumstances. And the goal of the war is not only to get the hostages out, but also to destroy Hamas (which Ahmed himself agrees should be done). Alas, Ahmed is so exceptional, and some people are so besotted by him, that they themselves lack a clear-eyed view and are incapable of seeing where he gets things wrong.
In other words, when Ahmed writes and says things that comport with the Hasbara world view he's clear eyed and rational and one can pull endless quotes of his to support that, but when he says things that are at variance with that narrative suddenly he's emotionally compromised. Yet, if one watches him on the many TV interviews he's done what one actually sees, regardless of the topic, is a clear headed, affable guy speaking rationally and unemotionally about the evil of Hamas, the stupidity of the world-wide Palestinian supporters AND the excesses of the IDF and Israel's government.
Everyone is human and fallible and everyone "gets things wrong". The best we can do to mitigate that is to get outside of our echo chambers. People like Ahmed are good at helping us do that, if we want to. Certainly we don't have to take one person's word for it, but given a certain level of honesty and candor it should at least make the rational observer want to step out and look around. Here a couple of links to help people do that if they are interested...
https://aoav.org.uk/2024/opt-casualty-monitor/
https://witnessing-the-gaza-war.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Bearing-witness-to-the-Israel-Gaza-War-v6.5.5-5.12.24.pdf
I didn't just say that he's wrong - I pointed out that he is making accusations that he has no evidence for.
You've read a lot of posts by him. If you believe that everyone gets things wrong, how come you have never pointed anything out?
I believe that overall he's got a clear headed view of the situation in all the areas I've described, including the behavior of the IDF. He often cites sources for his claims, so it's not accurate to say he "no evidence". It might be sources or evidence you don't agree with, but it's evidence.
I've never seen him say something that was egregiously wrong. There were things I didn't agree with, but I think his voice so important that I think it would be counterproductive to nitpick at him.
He has not cited sources or evidence for this particular claim (as well as others that I have seen).
And thanks for your admission that even when he says things that you think are wrong, you don't point them out.
Candace Owens recently said that Israel should just take out the Hamas fighters and spare the civilians, since they demonstrated the ability to take out only the Hezbollah combatants in the pager operation. She doesn't realize how impractical that is in the case of Hamas, where the fighters hide among and move along with the civilian population.
Also, the residents of the Gaza Envelope communities have been subjected to rocket fire for 25 years. The only reason that it was tolerated for so long was because trying to stop it would involve a massive ground operation. As soon as the IDF will leave, Hamas will undoubtedly resume rocket attacks, regardless of who will be in charge of Gaza.
You say he's got a clear-headed view only because he agrees with your anti-Israel stance. Ironically, you then accuse your own people of the same flaw you exhibit.
Take it up with Rabbi Slifkin. He wrote a whole article lauding this amazing man and used those exact words.
Doubt those bullshit numbers comport, John Spencer and Colonel Kemp are my reference point in clearing the IDF of any wrongdoing along with continued resupply though constricted of armaments that the US was obligated to ship which it could have stopped shipping fully if Israel was not in compliance with international laws. In addition Israel was required to resupply its enemy and keep the power and water on, fuck off with any bullshit that Israel has to fight the same war that other nations do
There you go. And that is exactly why a lot of people here responded—not with our formerly typical gratitude that someone agrees with us, if only partially!—but with irate impatience:
so some Palestinian ‘graciously’ allows that—as we can all see with our own eyes—the terrorists are actually evil! But so is Israel!
Who cares?
One van care about the people of Gaza, or one can support Hamas. One cannot both support Hamas and also care about the people of Gaza. The two are mutually exclusive.
Just because some Gazan Arab said something bad (yet truthful) against Hamas does not mean this Arab does not hate Israel and would not be ecstatic upon Jewish and Israel’s destruction.
I say, the time is long gone when it made sense to seek friends or partners among non-Israeli, stateless Arabs (ie “Fakestinians”). The only true answer is their utter annihilation or expulsion. Until you acquiesce to this reality, do the crimethink and truly understand that “another shoah” has to mean it is either us or them and nothing in-between, it is just pointless rumination of endless quoting of yet another enemy of the Jews.
I am tired of this. Aren’t you?!
He’s against Hamas so that means he condones Israel massacring his family, turning Gaza into rubble, destroying every hospital and starving the entire population to death. He thinks it’s Hamas’ fault, 🙄.
Interesting… but many of us are kind of tired of being pathetically grateful & excited every time some Palestinian states true facts that every Jew has been saying all along…
And of course, despite Ahmed’s very thorough cataloging of Hamas lies & deception—plus his inadvertent highlighting of the Palestinians’ readiness to repeatedly believe the terrorists’ lies—he still has “plenty of complaints” about the IDF’s actions & policies.
Never mind that he is neither a military strategist or a historian, and there is zero basis to claim that any other state on the planet would, or even could, be more precise, humane & cautious than Israel has been in how it has conducted this war.
So what’s the point, really? One more Palestinian criticizing Hamas won’t change any of the sick minds on the anti-Israel Jewish Left. And proud, self-respecting Jews don’t need the qualified, partial approval of Palestinians.
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