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Joseph's avatar

The problem is that there is a segment of the population that does not believe in realpolitik and in objective practicality in political decisions, but believes rather that if Jews are tough at all costs, and do what (they believe) G-d wants us to do, which is something like fight on behalf of Israel against all odds because we are in the times of final redemption, treat the Palestinians like the Sheva Amim because that’s G-d’s will, and take G-d’s revenge against our enemies, then we will undoubtedly be successful, contra to all common sense, because G-d will be on our side and the days of the third temple are almost upon us.

This is very similar to the extremists in late Bayit Sheni who believed in fighting the Romans at all costs, believing in all certainty that if we did so, and fought G-d’s battle no matter the cost, then he will certainly come to our aid and save us, because the final redemption was just around the corner.

Ultimately this approach destroyed the temple, killed millions of Jews in the most brutal way, ejected us from most of Israel, and brought untold generations of trauma and suffering on the Jewish people. History and common sense teach that this is a terribly wrong approach.

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Moshe M's avatar

While I agree with you that the transfer of Palestinians cannot happen any time in the near future because of all the reasons you mentioned, I don't think talking about it or having an event is a bad thing. Quite the contrary, I believe that it is good thing for Israel. Here is why.

We are all aware of the pro Palestinian protesters rallying cry "From the river to the sea". They do not accept the right of any Jew living in Israel. There are NO Jews living in Gaza or Palestinian villages/cities. Is it so bad for the world to see how people had enough and no longer want to live with Palestinians? Note that the worlds reaction after Gaza elected Hamas was "The Palestinian people are frustrated."

Politically, I believe this was a "win" for Israel. Biden is under pressure from many in his party and in turn pressures Israel. He took a major political hit from the support he has given Israel which may cost him the election. Because of this event, Netanyahu was able to tell Biden "I am also taking a hit from my coalition by agreeing with you that we will not resettle Gaza"

It goes against the US moral code. Right now it does. But "From the river to the sea does not go against the moral code of many." Why not? The difference is the microphone. There are many people talking, making events, writing pro Palestinian propaganda while the are a lot less of these that are pro Israel. We are being creamed in the public relations war. In the war for hearts and minds. Part of that is the underdog mentality. People like rooting for the underdog - the trampled. I believe a movement saying Gaza is OUR land! We were forcibly removed but now we want it back from the Palestinian occupiers. Such arguments would help swing the underdog pendulum in the opposite direction.

I have great respect for you and everything you write. The point of this post is to show that this is a very complicated topic and that there can be rational reasons for why it may be a good thing. As such, I don't think your friends should be upset at you for thinking how you think. Nor should you be upset at them for how they think.

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